I understand all of this, but what I find a bit of a kick in the teeth is that Steinberg is able to sell WL pro to newcomers at £195 considering many of the things listed you can buy for very low sums and my upgrade path is, as you point out, the cost of Elements + the difference.
Please bare in mind you can start a subscription to half of those DAWs for the cost of a takeaway meal and then jump on the £195 deal.
I’m well aware I could just do that and cancel, but it’s a bit of a kick in the teeth to be promoted to pay the difference despite having to shell out each time WL elements is updated.
I know Steinberg aren’t known for their fantastic upgrade prices - but this is a bit silly!
if you can wait for the summer deals is the best time to do any upgrades, it kind of makes sense to me the pricing…
if elements was £85 and the upgrade to pro was £195… then no one would buy the full version @ £429…
people would just buy elements then the cheap upgrade
I thought I remembered them requiring perpetual licenses to actually qualify for the competitive crossgrade…similar to it requiring you to own the $200 license for reaper instead of the $60 one.
If the Elements + the upgrade cost less than Pro, literally no one would buy pro. That’s why there’s not a “discount” on that path.
The fact that RX and Ozone count is kinda cool. I don’t believe it was that way when I bought whatever my first version was. But, I definitely owned at least Live if not also Pro Tools. and probably used that competitive crossgrade when I first bought it. Honestly…the fact that there are so many possibilities for the competitive crossgrade is awesome to me. Outside of podcasting, I find it a little hard to believe that people come to WL without owning something on the list.
“Outside of podcasting, I find it a little hard to believe that people come to WL without owning something on the list.”
I think that’s the point for me really, bare in mind that I could jump on that deal by going onto Ebay and buying a very old boxed copy of RX, Reaper paid version (always cheap), or just signing up and cancelling a Pro Tools sub… seems wonky no!
Cool for those crossgrading - which is how I’ll end up paying for it.
At least its not as wonky as Plugin Alliance price madness!
I may be wrong but when you use a upgrade path form any of these products to WL you may lose the license and the ability to upgrade it in the future. Also the surrender of any competitive upgrade license my mean you cannot use the newer version of the surrendered software in the future.
why does it matter? if you need it / want it, and if the current cross grade upgrade sale is cheaper than your upgrade, use it I wouldn’t hesitate to save the money (I use a few on the list anyway, but also have pro so its useless for me)
I mean…I own WL Pro anyway and have since 8 or maybe 9 IIRC, so it doesn’t apply to me…I use the upgrade pricing. It was Joe’s question, presumably because he’s moving to it (from PT+Hofa, according to his GS thread).
I’m just curious because I can’t leave well enough alone.
Do you actually have to “surrender” the license? If so, how does that work?