Lets imagine I’ve added some manual system breaks to get nice page turns at the start of a flow. Now what I want to do is get Dorcio to re-do its layout magic from that point to the end of the flow. How do I do this Dorico?
Also, another question (very closely related). When, in Engrave, I use the ‘move to previous system’ or ‘move to next system’ buttons:
sometimes it creates a new system
sometimes it doesn’t
Can I control this ? or does it just depend on 'horizontal note spacing constraints" of the new system I’m creating?
Ah; So I must have something set that stops that happening. (I’ll look most carefully next time ). I’m getting the impression that Dorico adds ‘manual system breaks’ when I vertically align notes in chords.
(As “vertically alignment” is a separate issue I will raise it as a separate discussion when I get chance, Unfortunately I’m so focused on the actual music that I’m reluctant to divert and ask forum questions),
That is unfortunate. The Dorico flow is assuming that engraving tweaks are quite ‘down stream’ in the composing process. They are not: sometimes I have to ‘fix’ the original automatic vertical alignment before I can read back my own music reliably (I compose at the guitar). I guess guitar music is exceptionally affected as so often there are 3 or 4 layers packed on one stave.
@aceastwood
I would suggest that you show us an example (screenshot or Dorico File) of what is making your work flow difficult, so we may have some ideas on how to make it easier.
Edit:
Now I’ve seen that you already posted a file in another thread and got an answer from @Derrek pointing in the same direction. Edit ends.
You can also move notes horizontaly (in engrave mode) using the voice column x offset in the properties panel. you can also change the voice index column there, and these changes will not add systems brakes to the Layout.
I think the reasoning is that a horizontal adjustment by a certain amount is in the context of a specific system of music. If I move a note by some amount so that it looks right in context, and then the music later reflows so that there are more or fewer bars on that system, the overall spacing in the system will change and my adjustment may no longer be correct.
but no for the vertical alignment of one chord. If that chord should be vertically aligned anywhere then it should be vertically aligned in all layouts.
Dorico’s miracle of multiple layout support is also, unfortunately, the big problem behind getting dynamics aligned per system. Dorico wants me to group them per system , but a system in 'layoutA" is not a system in “layout B”.
The other dynamic alignment problem, (even for single layout) is where “gradual dynamics” extend from one system to the next . . .
If you manually nudge notes to vertically align a chord, and then something happens to change the number of bars on that system, it is likely that the chord will no longer be aligned. The spacing of individual notes in your measure will have changed, and the amount of adjustment that you applied to align things will now look different in that context.
I’m beginning to think that the correct solution to my problem is to use the voice column index and not to move notes about horizontally . Have I understood that correctly ? I’m assuming that voice column index will affect all layouts ?
Well that’s what I thought I saw. If I get a good example I will post it
But, in any event, won’t the multiple layout problem mess up the systems? (now that Dorico lets me create ‘tablet specific’ and ‘print specific’ outputs I will be using them.
I don’t want to be always complain about things — this is all so much better than Finale )
If the passages breaks over two systems, Dorico is smart enough not to maintain the initial vertical spacing of the hairpin on the second system, where it’s not needed.
If I get a good example I will post it
