RE : Korg M1 (Programing & Questions?)

I don’t think it’s possible. I went through most parameters and could not get the latest 64 bit VST version to change tempo. Even with Cubase tempo change. :nerd:

Unless somebody shows me how to. I would record a wave in Cubase and use the elastique pro… To change the tempo :ugeek:

Hi AP,

Ok, thanks a lot man. I just wondered if it was any different on the VST than on the hardware M1. Obviously not. One of my mates spent 90 x mins trying to make the edit this weekend also! lol

Cheers,

Paul

If you edit a patch in PROG (lets say the RELEASE TIME of FRETLESS BASS [009]), you would increase the ‘R’ parameter (using the ‘A~H’ keypad under the display) to (say) ‘+10’. No problem.

And you decide you are quite happy with this EDIT and wish to SAVE it. Lets assume for now you simply OVERWRITE it (ie to the same location). Again, no problem.

Then a couple of gigs down the line you decide that in actual fact, there is too much RELEASE TIME applied to the FRETLESS BASS patch. The obviously thing to do would be to re-enter PROG mode, and re-adjust the RELEASE TIME again to suit your needs. In theory this is ok, but the problem (for me) is that:-

When you visually look at the RELEASE TIME setting, it does not say (as I would have thought/hoped) ‘+10’, but defaults back to ZERO! Ok, so most people, even after a few beers would remember that they increased the RELEASE TIME by ‘+10’, but what if you had altered several parameters? And you wanted to re-set the patch to its DEFAULT and then start again from fresh. You would be totally screwed because all of the ‘A~H’ parameters will be showing ZEROS and there would be no way of knowing/remembering what you had initially adjusted!

In which case, lets say you EDIT a few of the ‘A~H’ parameters and before you SAVE it, the screen will look something like:-

Att=+10 / Dec=-2/ Sus=+6/ Rel=-9/ and so on…

That’s great, but when you exit PROG and then return to it (the same patch) again, the display reads:-

Att=0 / Dec=0/ Sus=0/ Rel=0/ and so on…!

Surely it would be better to show:-

Att=+10 / Dec=-2/ Sus=+6/ Rel=-9/ and so on… because then you can see (compare) how/what has been changed compared to the factory DEFAULT!?

This has played on my mind for about 20 x years of so, believe it or not!

Please find copy of dialogue between myself and KORG below.

Thanks,

Paul Seaman

The reason for this is simple. As the Korg Employee stated, the A-H parameters are not meant for real editing, they are for quick changes on the fly. (Live) The values that are displayed here are relative to the actual values you would see in Program Edit mode, which is different from just tweaking the A-H parameters.

If you change the A-H parameters and save the preset, it then shows a value of zero again because now there is zero relative change to the parameters you just saved. You just wrote over the original values with the new values when you saved the preset. Get it?

I had an M1 in 88/89 and sold it in 91/92. I was thinking about picking up the Legacy VST though.
I have the MS-20, MonoPoly and the Wavestation VSTs and they are pretty amazing. The M1 with all the content and the rez filter seems like a “no brainer” to me.

Thanks Rotund,

I appreciate that.

So the A-H BUTTONS are there so that you can TEMPORARILY TWEAK the PARAMETERS it offers in REAL TIME. But if you wanted to perform HEAVY EDITING and PERMANENT CHANGES
to a PROG, then you would instead use the EDIT PROG MODE to make these modifications and SAVE procedure.

Now, if you had previously modified and stored a PROG with it’s (say) ATTACK TIME set to 99, and then called up this PROG after you have SAVED it: then the A BUTTON (and thru to H) will all say ZERO as per normal. But what happens when you INCREASE the VALUE of BUTTON A please? I guess absolutely nothing (as the ATTACK TIME is already at it’s MAX level). Though you should still be able to LOWER (ie -1 thru -99)?

Best,

Paul