Hi, I’ve got Cubase Elements 13 and Arturia V Collection and after checking the manual and googling for help I still can’t figure out how to route a VST instrument midi track to an audio track for recording purposes. Is there a way to do this in Elements or is this only possible in Cubase Pro?
To render in place the. You need Cubase pro. You can mute tracks except the one you want. Then export with the box ticked to bring the file onto a track in Cubase. Takes longer but it’s how I used to do it before render in place existed.
Problem is, after recording the midi track the original parameters of the VST instrument, for example a synth, at the beginning of recording have changed due to my playing with synth filters envelopes etc throughout the recording and on playback the midi begins plays back with whatever the current parameters happen to be, and this is also what I get as an audio track after export, so it’s essentially a different recording
Hi, as mentioned you can render afterwards but I believe you should be able to set up the routing to achieve what you are after. I have Cubase Pro so cannot be certain if this is true, anyway try the following;
Add your VST instrument track.
Add an audio track and selecting the Audi Input as the VST Instrument you require as audio.
Ensure monitor and record enable are visible.
When the VST track is selected you will hear the Audio Track if its monitor is selected, though this will double the sound (hearing from both VST and Audio).
To record the audio in the Audio Track select record enable on both VST and Audio Tracks (no monitor selected) and record, you should have the Midi data on the VST Track and the audio you wanted on the Audio Track.
Hope this helps.
Unfortunately to add an audio track and select the audio input as the VST instrument is not possible on Cubase Elements. I believe it’s only possible with Cubase Pro
Sorry to hear that.
Probably just a Cubase Pro and Artist thing then.
Could you Freeze the instrument track, this should save the audio as it was recorded and prevent changes after as the track would be effectively locked.
It mentions that Elements has this function in the manual.
Save the basic preset if necessary and insert a program change before the instrument starts playing. Then do your automation run.
Only thing you may need to do is enable program change chase in prefs…not sure if it’s enabled by default (Chase means wherever you play from Cubase uses the last program change so you don’t need to play past the program change every time)
Thanks, do you know if it’s definitely possible to add an audio track and select the Audio Input as the VST Instrument on Cubase Artist? That’s half the price of Pro which wouldn’t be too bad, I didn’t know where to find info on it in the Cubase comparisons page or in the manuals
Yeah, that’s a good solution, thanks, I’ll take a look at setting it up, shame it isn’t possible to just record as audio track though.
There are vst recorder plugs that will let you record direct to audio…don’t see much advantage when you can automate, edit if necessary and then render to audio.
I’m sorry I do not know if this is definitely possible in Artist, perhaps someone else may know? Not sure if you could find this out from the Artist operations manual?
Slight error of thought here …
In the audio Track you have to add the input of your Audio-Interface …
where you have to route the analog input back to your DAW (example for focusrite scarlet)
This definitely works in Cubase LE AI Elements 13 
- it is how I work and which is required for your Audio-Mixdown (e.g. recording the whole project to a file in the end)
The part about Automation data though, I didn’t have to use yet, as I only ‘play’ with midi controllers that are editable direct (pitchbend, pan, volume etc.)
Good luck 
You need pro.
What audio interface do you have? The above method will work with interfaces that allow a loopback function. The focusrite do and I know RME do as I have one of there interfaces.
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This would be perfect, I use a focusrite Scarlett as audio interface. I’m not exactly sure how to set this up though, I’ve had a try but can’t figure it out, I’m new to a lot of this stuff. Would you mind taking a look at the screenshots of my set up and give me a few pointers?
Looks about right to me …
The Routing In has to match your Input Channels from Focusrite.
You seam to have more channels than I with my Scarlett 4|4 though.
Normally, when you set your Audio Track to record and play something on the VST , you see immediately, if it records (wave signature) .
Also in the Focusrite documentation there is a step-by-step setup for Cubase …
Forgive me but it’s still not 100% clear to me. All the inputs to my audio interface are hardware and the only output going back to Focusrite from cubase is for the monitors. I’ve managed to create a loopback by selecting loopback inputs as the audio track input. it records all audio playback coming from cubase and not just the track I’m physically playing and recording, this makes it impossible to use for my purposes. With your set up does it only record the track to audio that you’re working with?
Is it possible to set outs 3/4 as loopback outs? If that’s possible, maybe you could route the vsti track out to 3/4 and record the loopback return while everything else is in 1/2.
But I’m not sure if that functionality exists as mostly loopback is offered to allow streaming and the stereo mix is enough.
You could always create a cable loopback but sounds like you’ll need to repatch for that.
Yep that’s what I was missing, so I’m now sending VSTI to Output 3&4, loopback on focusrite set to 3&4 only and then that goes into input on the Audio Track, perfect!
Thank you all for getting me there, really appreciate it!
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