Regarding Groove Agent, Absolute, etc

I’ve been a Cubase lover and user for decades but haven’t been able to get any sound whatsoever out of Groove Agent, not since the earliest, much simpler versions were discontinued, years ago. I’ve never figured out how get GA to make even a peep in either Cubase 12 or 14, so I simply use 3rd party VST drum and percussion units instead. More recently, I also lost the use Halion, because ever since I upgraded to Cubase 14, my computer can’t locate a license for Halion. Why? Who cares? None of this has been a serious issue for me because, again, there are other options. I’m just saying I won’t be lining up to get Absolute or any of your other new offerings. For whatever reason(s), I have always found Steinberg’s VST instruments to be the least compatible with Cubase, of everything on the market. Weird, no? Different computers, different MIDI input devices, reloading software from scratch. Nothing ever made any difference.

Thats so wierd. I use it with every session. What platform?

Always Mac. Currently, an M2 Pro running Ventura 13.7.8.

Since posting this, I realized that older projects, created using Cubase 13, can still use Halion, but projects started using Cubase 14 get the license error message.

I use Cubase 15 with Absolute 6 daily without problems on a Mac Mini Pro and a Windows 11 laptop. Have you checked everything has been activated in the Steinberg Activation Manager? The latest generation of Steinberg VSTs are excellent and well worth getting working.

M2Pro here with Sequoia

You ever thought maybe music technology and music production using computers just isn’t for you, its a bit too much ?

Groove Agent is very simple.

Drop a sample on a pad > Play the pad > Sound comes out.

Its not rocket science.

Thank you, James; as a matter of fact, I have that thought almost daily. I’m sure a lot of the tasks I spend hours doing could be done in a flash with a keystroke or two.

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| 7am3s_UK
February 23 |

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You ever thought maybe music technology and music production using computers just isn’t for you, its a bit too much ?

Groove Agent is very simple.

Drop a sample on a pad > Play the pad > Sound comes out.

Its not rocket science.

That’s very strange. In general, they work just like any other 3rd party VST.

You said you don’t care, but spent a bit of effort to write this post.

If you cared, I would call Steinberg USA support on the old fashioned phone. Get the license issues worked out. Then USA support can help you with the rest. I’m guessing they could even remote in to your Mac Computer.

And finally, considering your objectives and genre, I find Absolute, especially Halion, more beneficial than a competing bundle for example NI Komplete. For me, Absolute is more quality while Komplete is definitely quantity…and I’m pretty sure is going to drastically change in the next few months.

Over a year ago I transferred everything in Battery 3/4 kits to Groove Agent because for the past 13 years, I haven’t liked their direction. While Groove Agent is more complex, you should be able to work with it similar to any other 3rd party drum VST without those additional features interrupting your workflow.

The stigma of 3rd parties always being “better” has existed since the beginning, but today, not so much. If users actually learned the included tools, and perhaps got past the color and GUI designs, I think there would be much less looking over the fence to 3rd parties thinking that grass is always greener on the other side.

Call USA support. You could be in for a nice surprise.

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Thank you, Greg. When I said I didn’t care, I meant I’d usually rather just make some music than spend my time wrestling with frustrations. But some days I bite that bullet and do a little work, so I’ve saved the text of your response for the next time that day comes. Again, thanks.

I generally avoid buying anybody’s bundles because, first and foremost, disk space. (You know you’ll never use it all anyway.)

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| Greg_Purkey
February 23 |

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More recently, I also lost the use Halion, because ever since I upgraded to Cubase 14, my computer can’t locate a license for Halion. Why? Who cares? None of this has been a serious issue for me because, again, there are other options. I’m just saying I won’t be lining up to get Absolute or any of your other new offerings. For whatever reason(s), I have always found Steinberg’s VST instruments to be the least compatible with Cubase

That’s very strange. In general, they work just like any other 3rd party VST.

You said you don’t care, but spent a bit of effort to write this post.

If you cared, I would call Steinberg USA support on the old fashioned phone. Get the license issues worked out. Then USA support can help you with the rest. I’m guessing they could even remote in to your Mac Computer.

And finally, considering your objectives and genre, I find Absolute, especially Halion, more beneficial than a competing bundle for example NI Komplete. For me, Absolute is more quality while Komplete is definitely quantity…and I’m pretty sure is going to drastically change in the next few months.

Over a year ago I transferred everything in Battery 3/4 kits to Groove Agent because for the past 13 years, I haven’t liked their direction. While Groove Agent is more complex, you should be able to work with it similar to any other 3rd party drum VST without those additional features interrupting your workflow.

The stigma of 3rd parties always being “better” has existed since the beginning, but today, not so much. If users actually learned the included tools, and perhaps got past the color and GUI designs, I think there would be much less looking over the fence to 3rd parties thinking that grass is always greener on the other side.

Call USA support. You could be in for a nice surprise.