First of all thank you for all your reactions. Admittedly, and this ain’t news to us, the Hub can trigger passionate discussions on the forum and I will try to address most of the concerns that were posted.
About Steinberg showing the hub just to make extra revenues, nobody’s using it
Contrary to what is being assumed here, we do know for a fact that a majority of our users are using the hub. It is a shortcut to create new projects, browse through recent ones or templates, which are admittedly in a majority of the cases the options you want to have an easy access to when one starts Cubase. Additionally, the hub is also being used as an entry point to update or buy extra content, and here also not in only marginal use cases. Nonetheless, we also do know for a fact that many of our users do not want to see the news panel, and we absolutely understand and respect this. In this regard, we have always provided an option to hide them: disable “Use Hub” until C12, and in C13 disable “Show News in Hub”.
About being able to minimize the hub
I will backlog this and discuss it with the team
About the hub not prompting or closing when you want it to be.
I could read understandable cases where this is annoying, for instance when using the file menu within the hub window to open a project. I would assume the hub should also close for consistency. I will backlog this and discuss with the team.
We could implement a preference or make it just simply standard that the hub only opens itself once every other window was closed and skip the part where it opens itself automatically once the last active project was closed. I will backlog this and discuss with the rest of the staff.
About what’s standard and what’s not standard.
I see legitimate but erroneous attempts to compare Cubase with other applications, but it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Cubase is more than the project window, it’s a complex toolbox: MediaBay, MixConsole, etc, they all come on top as separate entities. And here lies the complexity of trying to reconcile this complex toolbox with Windows OS. You cannot compare each of its feature with other applications like Spectral Layers, Wavelab, Microsoft Words for they are project-based applications. We are trying to also allow users who are using and starting Cubase to do anything else but open a project to still be able to do this. In this regard I do not see any value in opening a mock project window at startup:
- This offers zero features. It’s just a quite big and complex background picture.
- As far as we could discuss several times: opening the hub at startup supposedly does not lead to any feature loss nor extra clicks in comparison to previous versions.
There is no usability argument to disable the hub at startup in comparison to previous versions besides purely aesthetical ones as far as I could read so far. If there are exceptions to it then we might consider preferences to open other windows at start-up: MixConsole, MediaBay, but a mock project window will not be part of the options.
About the “no one ever complained about the floating menu”.
This assumption is not backed up by our own analysis of user reports. This menu was criticized and this for very legitimate reasons. Here I will advocate that this is not standard on Windows, in the sense that we were not able so far to find any other application on this platform that was exhibiting a free-floating menu on top of Windows desktop. This was a bespoke solution that also made us miss important features of Windows, for instance snapping and docking of Windows. Now you have them and they provide a quite great dynamic alternative to our bespoke Workspaces feature. It should have never come to life in the first place and we will therefore not move back to this previous version.
About quitting Cubase when closing a project.
This is a feature loss. Note that this was inconsistent whether your project window was actually maximized or not, so we opted for a consistent and more flexible rule now that Cubase does not quit automatically when you’re closing the last project window. To quit Cubase now on Windows is doable either via the regular shortcut or via File / Quit.
I hope I was able to address most of the topics that were mentioned here and could backlog some of the feature requests that were suggested here. Otherwise I’ll keep have an eye on this thread until the end of the week.
Enjoy producing noise and music with our DAW in the meantime
Thank you all