Relative tempo change

How might I create a tempo marking consisting of both a relative tempo change and a metronome marking? For instance: meno mosso half note = 40. I can only get one or the other to appear utilizing the items available in the Tempo section. Thank you.

There are different ways to get where you want, but not the one you’ve chosen (obviously, we’ve all been there), because you need to fool Dorico here.
First method : use Shift-T, input h=40. Enter. Then open the bottom panel, and in the tempo text (I expect the tempo to be selected, if it’s not, select it), write meno mosso. Make sure both text marking and metronome marking are ticked.
Second method : use unexpected glyphs, such as a non breaking space at the start of the marking or between the words (not sure it works though), the idea being to fool Dorico’s parsing algorithm into thinking this is not a meno mosso but something it doesn’t know. As you can see, I use the first method, but I read that method in a Pianoleo’s post, and his advice is always valuable.

I dig. Very nice. First method, that is. Can this be retained in the tempo section for future use? Thank you.

Sorry. I meant saved in the tempo section for future use in other projects. As opposed to saved in this one only. Thanks again.

It’s so easy, I just enter it from scratch in new pieces (esp. since the MM marking may not be the same BPM in each case). If I use it later in the same piece, I can copy/paste it.

You can alt-click it if you need to copy it elsewhere (I mean, select it, and alt-click the rhythmic spot where you need a duplicate). I admit I never use the right panel…

Understood and agreed. Nevertheless, is it possible to save created items in a specific project (in this case, tempo items) so that they are available in future projects? I must admit I kind of like the right panel. Thanks again.

This is one of those things that I have been complaining about for years that I’ve given up hope on ever getting changed.

A tempo entered with a metronome mark should be respected and shouldn’t require extra steps.

Not directly within the program, but you can manually create a doricolib file and add it to your DefaultLibraryAdditions folder. The factory tempos are found in the scorelibrary.xml file under tempoPresetDefinitions. You can copy an existing tempo to a new doricolib file to get the syntax correct, and then modify it to create custom tempo indications.

I originally did this mostly so I wouldn’t have to look up various accents and other marks in Latin grooves anymore, but ended up expanding it a bit.

Works with the popover too.

I also wanted some basic English relative changes too:

Anyway, these panels aren’t too tricky to customize if you’re up for a little editing.


Thank you for response. A bit more involved than I had hoped. Not to mention that I cannot find such a folder as you mention. Not a deal breaker, in any case. Thanks again.