REMOTE SURFACE: Button Type Toggle Missing for Preset Nav

Im simply wanting to use a momentary button to switch a diff preset (kind of a shift really) and I cant seem to see any option for the button type for preset…which is kind of annoying and antithetical to the idea of a temp shift…ie common use of a keyboard using a shift key
Any ideas or reasons why??

Hi, could you please describe a little bit more detailed what you want to achieve? What does a “preset” stand for? Is your “remote surface” created using the mapping assistant, a js script?

For reasons I wont go into…Im using an iconpad as editor for plugs etc because of its versatility. However that means using a HUI or MCU so that the encoders are relative as the icon editor only allows for absolute controller assignments to the encoders. Im only just starting to use RS editor so I apologise for any obvious issues Im ignorant of

Example 1
A/B is a huge part of driving with ears an not eyes.

  • There is a 3x3 pad of which, I use the top 2 LHS buttons as the AB tools
  • Button 1 is the most used: IFX bypass toggle
  • Button 2 is toggle A/B (so I can switch quickly and not know which version Im listening to and there choose or train my ears
  • I want a shift function so that it jump to a diff preset and I can then press button 2 to actually write A>B. This should require a shift hold and release so that wont accidentally be overwritten

OR

Example 2
The CS has push button encoders,

  • When I push the encoder down, I want it to select another preset where the encoder is now sending a diff address etc
  • On release of the encode switch, I want it to return to default

There is a lot more to it than that but hopefully this example explains it a bit better…this is how its generally done for ableton anyway ie the buttons basic physicality is defined then the next layer is modifying is behaviour to address different addresses in the CS map

If the 0 value could be used as a trigger, I could use a conditional to allow any 0 value of the encoder to action a change of preset and achieve the same thing which would be the ideal


Here is just prototyping the behaviour

The button behaviour does not have the option

HTH

I understand now.

Yes, the MIDI Remote when it comes to its mapping assistant, doesn’t offer temporary states, at least I’m not aware of such. You can go for

a) external midi utilities (I used to use BOME MIDI Translator for such things) to convert the 0-127 values of your button to different CCs and/or

b) having two buttons for previous/next mapping page (if using BMT you can assign the CCs accordingly).

As a side note, such operations are trivial using scripting, but I do see that you’re using the mapping assistant, so there’s no need to expand more on this.

Thanks
Yeah Im pretty familiar with BMT as I have used it, generating a lot of setup etc but Im really wanting to do this natively and 0 value as valid operator is pretty 101 for control surfaces.
Ive mentioned on other posts but I actually design and implement UI/UX for control surfaces for OEM chinese manufacturers…but I just want simplicity so I can actually share it with some others, the iconpad is miles ahead of similar piers. Just wish it was built a bit better
The issue is I do it all in python and I really dont want to learn another language…Im a producer and mixer…I just want to do the job not waste more of my time.

Appreciate your input

Cubase RS are a long way behind…these days, gestures are an important part of psychology in work flow. Without it…you have to go to all the fiddly as above. Gestures are much more intuitive