Render in Place not working properly

In Cubase Pro 11, when i select a region of an instrument track and hit “render in place” results in several empty new audio tracks (labeled with the wrong track name from the track above the selected one). Only when i choose to render with all channel effects it works as expected.
Can anyone confirm this?

Hi, I’m having problems rendering External Instruments. I can render vst instruments but not external.

Has anyone else had this issue?

So what normally happened was that a window would open and tell me that an external instrument was being used and that rendering would happen in real time. Now, no window and nothing happens. Does anyone know if there is a setting to turn this window back on?

same problem here

So I’m now using File-> Eport Audio and it works good but you don’t get thet convenient option to mute the track after export like you do with the render function.

Hi chris030,
sorry for not replying sooner to your request. I just got swept away with my External Instruments issue - I have quite a few external synths - I put NI Massive X on an Instrument track, put down some midi notes, used the range select tool over a section of the midi part , hit render - dry - It created a dry audio track of the selected part. So I could not replicate the issue that you had.

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I cannot confirm this. It works like expected also with my external hardware (uses automatically the realtime mode, new name with added “(R)” ).
I render always without channel effects to have the original audio from the synth (first option in the settings dialog).

Hi 4damind, thanks for your reply… it must be some quirk of my system. I will try reinstalling cubase to see if that helps.
( I’ve been ranting on about this all over the place… I should have waited for confirmation! )

Do you “render with current settings” or do you actually open the settings? It may be that you need to “render (settings)” and select settings that match what you want to happen. They might be set to something different by default.

jwatte - thanks for your reply but I do open render setting then choose one ofthe options then hit enter - NOTHING !
I can’t figure it out …

Hi 4damind - Update, if I load my external synth as an instrument track the render function works as a realtime export as expected but if I load my external instrument as a rack instrument the render function does not work. I have two kinds of external multi timbal synths, those that also have a multi Timbral plugin interface and older synths that don’t. I’m going to see if the synths with multi timbral plugins can render simultaneously on multiple tracks.

I’m trying to apply Render in Place to several audio events (selecting all of them) on the same audio track belonging to the same underlying audio file with the objective to cut up the original audio file into smaller audio files.

The first event renders ok, but all the others render an empty file.

This is happening in Cubase 11 Pro on Win10 Pro, while it works fine as expected on in Cubase Pro 10.5 on the same computer.

Same problem here!
It happens when rendering multiple track at once and on Cubase Pro 11 only (works fine in 10.5)
The only workaround I found is to render one track at a time (annoying!)

Same Here. Have to Render Instrument Tracks One by One. Using Pro-11.

They broke render in place.
They broke automation following the render.

they broke, they broke…it’s getting to the point where we expect them to break things that work.

Whoever is in charge of that part, Seriously… get a new job.

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So is this a confirmed issue?

I’ve been having issues with render in place myself.

Something simple like I would go to render a MIDI event on an Instrument track. Spire to be precise. The mod wheel on this particular preset is slightly up, which increases the filter cutoff.

I select the event, go to Render in Place. Choose the 2nd option (to include all inserts in the render).

When I playback the rendered audio, it has rendered it with the mod wheel fully down. Not good.

I’m on Mac Catalina. Running the latest Cubase 11.

I’ve dealt with this for an hour trying to render in place with external fx. Both render in place and export produced flat silent event and files. The problem was actually with my punch-in, where during real time export playback, if the play head hits the punch in, it behaves normally (muting your record-armed tracks), hence the output is nothing.

I believe it’s more of an oversight as whenever someone is rendering/ exporting, nobody is trying to record.

Yeah - I’ve also been having problems when selecting multiple events to render - random ones end up with a blank file. When you re-do the bad ones individually they all work fine…

Hi,

This is because the Instrument track is using multi-outs. Cubase always renders all outputs, because Cubase doesn’t know the internal routing in the VSTi. It works like this as specified.

What exactly does it mean, you cannot render External Instrument? Does it mean, nothing happens, if you click the menu item? Or does it mean, it exports an empty file? Or what exactly happens?

Rendering of External Instrument works here on my side.

Isn’t it better to use Bounce Selection function for this task?

There are multiple issues combined at this thread. None of them is confirmed and officially reported.

Bounce Selection will make a single file out of all of the selected events, while my objective is to have a quick way to slice a long audio file into several short one’s.

I just tried again, and now with Cubase Pro 11.0.41 (Win10) , the Render in Place function ignores the setting to create separate events (while it works correctly in 10.5):

i.e. doing this

creates a single event rather than 2 separate events:

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Again: This works correctly in 10.5, so it looks to me like a new bug in 11.