How does one place repeat endings above both piano parts in a piano duo score?
Repeat endings are system objects, so you would need to place each Piano instrument in its own group (in setup) in order to be able to show system objects above both.
This will cause tempo marks, rehearsal marks, etc., to show on both Pianos too.
Thanks @Mark_Johnson. No experience with groups yet, but I just did that (I think) and there are still no first and second endings over piano 2.
Here you go.
I’m not exactly sure how I managed this, but but it involved quite a lot of swapping the positions of the groups in Setup (so that group 2 was above group 1). My first attempt resulted in the bracket between the two groups having its ends reversed. When I deleted the bracket, the endings disappeared from the lower group. A few more swaps, possibly involving deleting and re-adding the braces on each pair of staves, and miraculously the endings stayed in place! The other important thing, of course, was to have system objects showing above keyboards (Layout Options > Staves and Systems > System Objects. It is possible that I have somehow “tricked” Dorico into doing this, because it initially resisted my attempts. Also, it appears that the endings on the lower piano will disappear if there is a bracket joining all 4 staves.
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EDIT (a little later) :
I think I have worked out a sequence of actions which will give the desired result. There is apparently no need to create groups.
1. Start an empty project and add the pianos (or start a Solo Piano project and duplicate the piano);
2. In Layout Options > Staves and Systems > System Objects check Keyboards under “Show system objects above the first bracket for the given instrument families:”, click Apply;
3. In Write mode, add the ending (select the bars for the first-time ending, shift-R, type ending, press Enter);
4. In Engrave mode, delete the braces joining each pair of staves for the two pianos;
5. Add a brace to the lower piano, then do the same for the upper piano. It is important that you do the lower piano first!
You can do steps 2 & 3 after doing steps 4 & 5.
I hope this works reliably for you.
It worked! Thank you very much, @StevenJones01!
I actually did it in my preexisting project rather than a new one, which was a relief. It appears that I will need to do this with each of the flows in the project.
Any idea why this legerdemain is necessary?
No idea whatever, except to suggest that maybe Dorico expects certain things to be done in a particular order and, to quote my first post, it is possible that I have somehow “tricked” Dorico into doing this.
The Dorico development team would be best placed to offer an explanation.
This can also be done by making the 2nd piano an Electric Piano which falls under the Electronics category, then tick both Keyboards and Electronics for System Objects.
Of course, you will want to rename the Electric Piano and change its sound patch in Play mode.
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Thanks. @Craig_F . A great solution. I had wondered if the issue were something like that. But this needs to be fixed if it is a bug. One should be able to use the same instrument category in different groups and have endings etc. show. Suppose one wrote a double orchestra piece, would nothing show on the second orchestra?
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It’s not a bug, but more flexibility is required in this area, and is planned for the future.
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