Don’t know if my topic title gives much of a clue. I want to be able to subsitute one player/instrument for another for reasons that have nothing to do with music. If I’m short a horn player in my brass quintet, I want to put a fluegelhorn in that chair. So I need to turn the horn part into a fluegelhorn part.
What’s the best way to accomplish that? I’m thinking I should be in the “Add instrument” neighborhood and simply add a fluegelhorn part onto my project (although I don’t really want both to show up in the score). Is there a smarter/faster/better way?
Thanks.
Will Corbin
The smartest way if you don’t want that instrument to clutter your full score is to use the right-click on the layout you want to “copy”>clef and transposition override. That way you can create a duplicate of the layout (the part that the player will read) with the accurate transposition automatically. Use the transposition override (F3 sounds Bb3, for example)
In addition to @MarcLarcher 's suggestion of altering the part layout, you can also just create a new layout for that player and set overrides on the new layout as he indicates. This leaves your original layout undisturbed. Edit: Sorry, I think I misread his post – I think he’s suggesting the same thing I am (duplicate existing layout and then add clef and transposition overrides).
Another approach would be to actually change the instrument in the Players panel, using the three dot menu on the instrument. But in general, adding a new layout is the least intrusive method – you’re basically just adding another “view” of the music that’s already in your score and not altering any of the source material.
I did not write it well — thank you for noting it — of course, I recommend starting with duplicating the original layout !
If you do create the additional instrument (I prefer doing this, because sometimes there are different markings on it specific to that instrument, or the range is different so some sections are an octave “displaced”, or I need different fingering or whatever), you can hide any instrument from the “full” score. By having an additional score (by duplicating), one is full for your reference, the other partial (partial one being the main one, with the instrument(s) unchecked to not appear.) Or you can simply have one full score with that instrument unchecked.
Here I have simply unchecked (on the left) the instrument I do not want in the full score.)
(Ignore my notations!)
Aaron:
I’m getting deeper over my head here. I’ve managed to create a duplicate layout in the right-hand screen and gotten the clef and transposition dialog to come up. But that window won’t let me do anything; all the text is greeked.
I may have caused this by adding a fluegelhorn to the horn player, which I now can’t figure out how to get rid of.
Can you walk me through?
Thanks.
Will
You added a flugel instrument to the horn?
In Setup mode, in the left panel, clicking the 3 dots you see the options
Can you upload the project?
Thanks. I think maybe I was clicking the three dots on the horn line – and deleting that removes the horn part from the score. But it’s all good now.
I duped the horn part on the right screen. Do I rename it right there? And I still get no action in the clef and transposition dialog.
Will
Sure. Here you go. I got as far as duplicating the layout. I changed the name of the instrument, but Dorico still thinks it’s a horn. And I’ve fumbled around otherwise in trying to understand the “help” instructions, so it’s possible I’ve done other damage along the way.
Just so you know I’m not completely helpless, I have managed to print out the parts, save score and parts as PDFs and export an MP3, for all of which the tutorial is pretty straightforward. But this duplicate part for a new instrument is much more obscure. I suspect if I had a better or different name for it, I might find what I need. But I’ve search all the obvious ones.
Will
Will
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When I Fall In Love.dorico (1.23 MB)
So I think what you want is a Flugelhorn layout that includes the horn music. Hope I’ve got that right!
- In Setup mode, on the left, expand the player card for the horn player and delete the flugelhorn. (What you currently have is one player holding two instruments, which is not what you want.)
- On the right, right-click the Horn layout and duplicate it.
- Right-click the new Horn layout and rename it to Flugelhorn
- Right-click it again and choose Clef and Transposition Overrides. Under Transposed Pitch, set middle C to sound Bb3.
Now you have a new layout that presents the Horn music so that a Flugelhorn player can read it.
In the manual, see this section and this one.
Aaron:
Brilliant. Thanks for the help. Easy to follow, and I think I have a success. One more hurdle cleared.
Vielen Dank.
Will
By the way: Here’s the finished project. If you know a brass quintet that might want to use it, please feel free to pass it along. I’ll list it for sale soon on Sheet Music Direct.
I’m also good for a couple more freebies thrown in your general direction. If you have quintet pals, they’ll find scores and sounds on YouTube. Just search my name, Will Corbin.
Thanks again – and I’m sure I’ll need your excellent help again in the future.
Will
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When I Fall In Love.dorico (1.23 MB)