Respelling of Chord Symbols-Is there really no way?

Dorico
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It seems Dorico does not allow you to respell chord symbols. Am I missing something?

I needed to be in C# as opposed to Db as the song alternated between the keys of C# major and C# minor. Where Db would have been preferable under normal circumstances, this was a rare case where C# major made much more sense.

I was able to change the key of the Db section to C# and also change the note spelling with no problem. However, no matter what I tried, I could not get the chords to respell. I ended up having to rewrite each one individually. That was a grind with 250 of them.

Any ideas or fixes out there?

Thanks,

Phil

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Maybe Write->Transpose helps. Here with a diminished second and chord symbols selected.

Jesper

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Or with the note tools popover (Shift-i)

Jesper

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Hi Jesper,

I have tried this (t-2) with an Ab chord symbol, and Dorico changes it to Gbsus4. Do you have any idea about why Dorico adds the “sus4” suffix…?

Thanks!!

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Did you try with t-2d? The d is for diminished. A diminished second. Also, t2d for the other way around.

Jesper

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Hi Jesper, sorry, could not answer you before.

No, what I wanted was to use your hint to transpose a Ab chord one tone down to Gb, but using “t-2” adds the strange “sus4” with no aparent reason…

Thanks anyway.

Edit: and it gets weirder: if I type “t+2” the resulting chord is Bb(b5). Something strange is going on here…

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OK, try using Write->Transpose instead. Transposed an Abmaj7 to a Gbmaj7 with this setting. Use the calculator to the right. The Shift-i ,t-2d work for enharmonic spelling at least.

Jesper

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Then, the shift-i must not be intended for chords, I assume.

Thanks!

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No, not really, I guess.

Jesper

Edit: See @Janus post below.

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Shift-I is applied to every individual note in the chord, which is why, if you specify the interval (eg. shift-i t M3) the result is correct, but if you only specify a scale degree (shift-i t 3) the result will be less predictable.

eg. (In C major) a Dm7 (d,f,a,c) → shift-i tM3 → F#m7 (f#,a,c#,e)

but Dm7 (d,f,a,c) → shift-i t3 → Fmaj7(f,a,c,e)

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You left off the final letter d.

t-2d

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I explained the need for qualifier above.

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And your correspondent still missed it.

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@Janus is the note tools master.

Jesper

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Thanks, Derrek, but I wanted to transpose one tone down the chord, I did not want to replicate the diminished thing.

As we have found with Jesper, it seems that the “Shift -i” tool is not intended for chord symbols.

EDIT: ups, I have just seen the Janus post, so it works but specifiying exact intervals, not just degrees.

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Thanks, Janus.

That seems clear now. I will try it ASAP.

EDIT: perfect, it works! Thanks again.

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Thanks so much for this. But wow, they make some things so difficult!!!

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Well, even if the suggested methods work well (and are logical and consistent), it would be nice if the Respell Using Note Name Above/Below commands would be implemented to respell Chord Symbols as well (@dspreadbury).

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Yes! :star_struck:

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Not only this, but it would be great if Opt+Shift+arrow would transpose the chord symbols up/down half steps too, just like it does for notes.