Rhythmic notation for chord symbols

I don’t know if this topic has already been discussed, but I wanted to know if there are plans to implement rhythmic notation for chord symbols.

Every time I try to add a slash notation voice, I have to manually adjust spacing, hide ledger lines, set rest positions, adjust note beams, etc. A rhythmic cue is not useful to me because I don’t have other instruments in the score, and I think it would be cumbersome to add an instrument that I would then have to hide just for this kind of notation, unless I am overlooking some other method.

Thanks in advance!

It’s not at all cumbersome. The picture you show is a just a layout, which need only show one instrument with the rhythmic cues from another.

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As an excercise for myself I tried the idea of @Janus

cues.dorico (485.2 KB)

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Yes this it the most awful thing about Dorico. I’ve been a user since Dorico 2 or 3 and it’s awesome but we are constantly improving things that are not as important as the issue above. I’m constantly writing with slash notation and find myself going back through entire score and deleting unnecessary empty voice rests that pop up every time I use a different voice. Come on guys, instead of implementing unnecessary features that help semi-educated composers and/or producers rework this entire slash notation system because it’s overcomplicated. I want to write music and I don’t want to lose precious minutes deleted unnecessary rests.

Welcome to the forum.

What is “the most awful thing”? Sorry, I can’t relate the rest of your post to this topic.

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Slash note notation (slashes, rhythmic notation) in general. It takes a lot of workarounds to make it all work. For example: you cannot use slashes and rhythmic notation in a single bar simultaneously without adding a different player and then condensing the parts in engraving mode. I switched to just changing the noteheads manually (as different voices: slashes, slashes with stems, default noteheads) which leaves you with plethora of additional whole bar rests in every single bar that the voice wasn’t used in which is not a problem in a single bar but if I have 80 or more bars of unnecessary rests is tiring, but still easier and takes less time than the first option with different players.

Also, issues like Miguel_Lopez’s where you want different notations in parallel and you don’t have a full score. Band charts, Lead sheets etc, or small accents for drum charts.

Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love Dorico, but there are some issues that need to be solved which are more important for a “notation” program than some VST supports that are used solely for playback.

I don’t understand slash notation, but this seems perfectly possible with two voices in one instrument…
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(Removing rests is trivial)

I know how to solve it the problem is that there shouldn’t be the need to even resolve it. Removing rests is not trivial if you have to do it between bars 15 and 346. And especially if you don’t have a full bar of music but a combination of rests and music. In that case you have to use filters and/or manually select the rests you want removed, or if you’ve already removed all the rests and decided to add some additional music in those bars, surprise surprise the rests are back and then you have to remove them again. It costs time. That’s what I mean when I say that this is first of all a notation software and it should notate the way I want it to notate, and not for it to constantly be fighting with me.

When I write classical music there’s no problem at all, but when you have to rely on rhythmic notation you always have some extra steps.

Why couldn’t it just be the other way around? Dorico not to create additional rests unless I want it to.. I think it would be much quicker.

I’ve been writing a medley that’s around 10 min long for hours now only because I constantly fight with unwanted rests.

I disagree (well I would, wouldn’t I ?). You could probably just select one note and set the ends voice property and they would all disappear - or filter one voice and remove rests (but obviously it would depend on the specific case) .

Actually, I think you are fighting the software because of your preconceptions. The software follows conventions - your process does not.

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