Rim Knock

Is there a Rim Knock sound (tip of stick on rests on snare head, then shank of stick hits rim) in NotePerformer? Quite a common drum set technique in ballads.

Thank you for any help.

Do you mean rim shot?

If yes, there is a sound. On the snare line you can cycle through the available playing techniques with SHIFT-ALT/OPTION ↑ / ↓ which is natural/side stick/cross stick and rim shot.

Vadian,

Well, not really a rim shot where the tip of the stick and the shank hit at the same time. The cross stick may be the sound I am wanting. I always referred to it as a rim knock. But it is likely the cross stick. I will try it.

Thank you.

When I click on a snare drum note and press Shift-Option-up-arrow nothing happens. Should I be in Write Mode or Setup Mode in the Percussion kit? I can’t figure out how to access the various playing techniques.

Thank you.

In this technique the tip of the stick stays on the head constantly and the shank is lifted to hit the rim, if that makes any sense.

That does make sense BTW.

I know it as “stick shot”, can’t say I have ever played it in a ballad, but often in big band, theatre, musicals, a more solid “blocky” sound (compared to a rimshot), often loud, with less ringing of the drum, as the tip of the other stick is resting on the snare skin. You can control the sound timbre a little with where along the stick shaft you hit (both sticks) and how far the resting stick is positioned, where it rests along the shaft on the rim itself.
It might well have other terms it is known as.

It’s usually called “sidestick”

Correct. And also “cross stick”.

It’s supposed to work in Write Mode in or not in Note Input Mode. Just select a note.
I tested it with a Drum Set and single Snare Drum player.
The notehead changes and in case of Drum Set the playing technique is indicated above the note.

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It is fascinating the number of different terms we are encountering for this technique. This photo should make it clear the technique I am searching for in NotePerformer. I am guessing it might be a “cross stick” but am not sure. I am still a little foggy on how to set a playing technique to try to get this sound from the kit. It would be great if someone could give me a step-by-step instruction. I have yet to use playing techniques of any kind in Dorico 6.

You can either, in note input mode, place the cursor at the snare drum position, and press alt/opt + up or down arrow until it reads side stick. Or, if you already have the snare drum entered, select a note and press alt/opt + shift + up or down arrow until it reads side stick.

Jesper

Yeah, this is the one that is also called “sidestick”

Yes, changed my info to side stick, since cross stick plays a different sound with NP at least.

Jesper

That’s it!! Side Stick. That’s a new one on me. I have for years known this as Rim Knock. I learn something new every day in this program. Thanks to all who responded. There were so many “correct” responses I am, quite honestly, not sure who to assign the solution to at this point.

Thanks again.

Gary

FWIW, I have also referred to it as a “knock.” In Noteperformer the “side stick” sound has never been quite the sound I was looking for. In the past I’ve just used a “rim shot” at a very, very soft dynamic for playback.

If you want to get really confused, check out this thread on drumchat.com

https://www.drumchat.com/showthread.php/18955-rimshot-sidestick-rimclick-crosstick

We percussionists can’t even agree on the names for the various techniques.

Here are descriptions of the most common techniques along with the names that I’ve seen to identify them.

  • Striking the head and rim of the drum at the same time with a single stick, producing a loud, accented sound – usually called a rim shot
  • Laying one stick on the drum so that the butt is touching the rim and the bead is on the head and striking the shaft of that stick with the other stick. This also produces a loud sound, but usually with a bit more “wood” in the sound – this is sometimes called a rim shot as well, but Ive also seen it called a cross stick or stick shot
  • Holding the bead of the stick on the drum head while striking the opposite rim of the drum with the butt of the stick (the one in ghfagan51’s photo above) produces the warm click sound that is quite popular in ballads – Often called a side stick or cross stick
  • Striking just the rim of the drum with the shoulder of the stick produces a bright click sound – Usually indicated as rim click, or sometimes, just rim
  • Striking the shell of the drum with the shaft of the drum stick is a common technique with Timbales called Cáscara. I’ve seen it called for on snare drum, but it’s almost impossible to achieve due to the lugs that go all the way from top to bottom on the shell preventing the stick from actually hitting the shell. Because of the metal shell of the Timbale and the fact that you can actually strike it, it’s a very distinctive bright sound, but doing it on snare drum doesn’t really accomplish anything. I usually just do a rim click when I see that. I’m also not going to try to strike my wooden shell drum and risk damaging it.

bkshepard,

This is good information. I will check this article out. I am a percussionist and agree that a standard nomenclature for the various techniques should be established.

Thanks for this information.

Gary

And knowing percussionists, when that list gets made… it will just be added to the existing list. :rofl:

As an example, a few bars into this piece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV234sqTRdw