"Rit," "Rall," and "a tempo" below the staff

Well aren’t I a genius. :blush: Sheesh. Thank you all. :laughing:

I found another way: selecting the “rall.” object and adding a negative value in “Start offset”, Y axis value at the Properties panel.

Add me to the pro-choice list (and out from the “shady ‘university’ music lobby” one).
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Could I please revive this thread with a feature request, namely adding above/below buttons to the properties panel for these rit./rall. markings please?
I find it just a tad cumbersome to adjust these in Engrave…

Thx, all the best to the team,
Benji

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Not to muddy the waters, but there’s certainly a case for rit/rall markings to be on every staff in choral scores, as Dennis is not going to keep an eye on the Soprano line just in case.

These would be above the stave, of course. :grinning:

We can add Staff Text on each staff, matching the Relative Tempo style, but …

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Yeah, but… sometimes playback is fun… :wink:

Yes, I agree, would also like to “vote” for the option to add tempo markings like rit./rall. below. Thanks.

Welcome to the forum @JakobH!

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Has this been added to 5.1? If so, I can’t find it.

Select a marking and press F. Does that work? (It might not).

I tried that already after searching through some posts, and sadly it doesn’t.

No, there’s been no change in Dorico 5.1 with regard to this convention for tempo.

In my experience with big band, concert band, small groups (like blues bands, rock bands), and the like, “rit” is almost always below the staff. It seems out of place above, and it would be nice to have a way to designate above/below globally.

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Definitely, and likewise for D.S. al Coda and the like.

This is a case where Dorico follows Gould, and she is probably right when talking about the modern conventions for university music. But it really does look peculiar in many other settings and really reserves a global setting.

In particular, I just don’t agree with Gould putting the d.s. al coda below the staff. That make it very ambiguous , causing confusion about possibly making the jump one line too early. To me, it makes perfect sense to be UNDER the last line of music before the jump, as in “play all these measures, and then jump”. That convention is more common than Gould’s in my experience.