# Save Plug-in Presets Track Channel/Load Input Channel

**URL:** <https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256>\
**Category:** Cubase\
**Tags:** cubase-older-version\
**Created:** [June 8, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256 "2012-06-08T02:41:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Borbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Borbo](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Borbo)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/1 "2012-06-08T02:41:58Z")

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Acting as both engineer and performer for my recordings; since it’s difficult to set plug-in parameters for the source I intend to record whilst the instrument is in my hands, instead, my approach has been to record a snippet, playback at unity gain, insert and set plug-ins over the track channel, save the plug-in settings as presets, insert and load the same plug-ins over the corresponding input channel and then remove inserts from track channel.

I have been assuming that since both input and track channels are at unity the resulting audio should be identical whether I process (using the exact same plug-in configuration) my source with inserts over input or track channel.

Have I made oversights?

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**Author:** ![rattfink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@rattfink](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rattfink)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/2 "2012-06-08T06:16:20Z")

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Hey Borbo. I often do the same thing and get great results. My only advice is keep an eye on the input and output levels to make sure you avoid clipping. I have taken the preset protection limiter and set the input to 0 with the output to -0.4 so I can go back after running through the parts and see if there are any transients kicking to hard and then adjust from there.

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**Author:** ![Borbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Borbo](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Borbo)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/3 "2012-06-19T01:38:32Z")

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Hi Rattfink. Pardon my late reply. Nice suggestion re using the preset protection limiter; not familiar with it myself yet, guessing it’s a VST plug-in. Thanks for your feedback.

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**Author:** ![Borbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Borbo](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Borbo)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/4 "2012-07-10T09:08:10Z")

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Would someone please explain ‘preset protection limiter’?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![thinkingcap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@thinkingcap](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/thinkingcap)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/5 "2012-07-10T21:28:25Z")

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> [@Borbo](#):
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> Would someone please explain ‘preset protection limiter’?

It’s the name of a preset of the Steinberg limiter FX called “protection limiter”. But that will not really help you on an input channel.

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**Author:** ![Borbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Borbo](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Borbo)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/6 "2012-07-11T01:34:28Z")

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Thanks,

why would it not be helpful over input channel?

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**Author:** ![thinkingcap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@thinkingcap](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/thinkingcap)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/7 "2012-07-11T07:26:44Z")

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Because VST software limiters can’ t prevent clipping at the A/D input stage.

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**Author:** ![Borbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Borbo](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Borbo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/8 "2012-07-13T08:56:46Z")

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I understand what you mean, however, if the A/D input gain is optimal and then from the output of a VST plug-in, which is inserted over a cubase input channel, if there is gain, couldn’t that lead to clipping on its way to recorder stage in cubase?

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**Author:** ![thinkingcap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@thinkingcap](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/thinkingcap)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/9 "2012-07-13T09:24:13Z")

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If you don’ t record to 32 Bit FP then yes…

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**Author:** ![Borbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Borbo](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Borbo)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/10 "2012-07-27T09:39:24Z")

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What does FP stand for? I have only ever experienced recording at 24bit/48kHz; I am not sure I understand what you mean.

Would you please explain for me? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Strophoid](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/strophoid/32/182_2.png) [@Strophoid](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Strophoid)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/11 "2012-07-27T10:28:25Z")

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32-bit floating point.

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**Author:** ![steve](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/steve/32/193789_2.png) [@steve](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/steve)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/save-plug-in-presets-track-channel-load-input-channel/616256/12 "2022-05-01T17:05:17Z")

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