C15 and the Score Editor basically appeared after short MIDI recording (I assume I hit the Score tab in the header) and it’s something I’ve never messed with before - but I find it really interesting.
The question I have is about the printed notes I’m seeing. The MIDI bass line I recorded shows the part correctly but the printed notes are looking odd. For example the 1/8th notes appear as a ‘three note 1/8th note’, or in other words, the SAME single note I played appears as three identical notes attached to the single 1/8 note flag. How do I correct this? The software identified the time sig and the notes correctly and the layout looks fantastic. Help?
there´s music theory and there´s Cubase´s automatic handling of note lengths, which sometimes has nothing to do with how long the notes actually are (…)
Show us a pic of the key editor and the score editor, so we can exactly see, what´s going on.
This happens when you have three notes exactly on top of each other. In the piano roll it might look like you have just one eighth note, but you probably actually have three of them exactly on top of each other so that one of the three is covering up the other two. You can use the “delete overlaps” function in the key editor to clean up these erroneous overlapping notes.
A common cause of this after MIDI recording is a keyboard that has multiple “layers” for recording. This happens with the default settings of some MIDI keyboards like the StudioLogic SL88 where every time you hit a key they will send four note ons and every time you release a key they will send four note offs, and Cubase will record all four, giving you four superimposed notes but it only looks on the key editor screen like a single note because the other note rectangles are underneath the one you can see. The score editor will flag this by showing split stems.
There can sometimes be bad audio effects as a result like phasing if they trigger slightly offset, or if they do trigger exactly simultaneously you might get an increase in amplitude that would make the instrument louder than it should be.
Thanks both of you. Here’s a screen shot. Mducharme, yes, this is a SL keyboard, an NC2x. However, as I try to edit the notes as a group, nothing happens. I can only delete the notes individually via the eraser tool in the editor. What am I missing?
BTW, I never knew this behavior was a trait of the SL product, thanks for the headsup. Also, do you know if this SL behavior is seen in all scoring editor programs - or just Steinberg programs? Thanks!
As I said you can use the delete overlaps function in the key editor (i.e. the piano roll) to get rid of them (not the score editor) after making a selection of notes. That should delete all notes underneath other notes. You’ll want to fix the keyboard settings so this doesn’t keep happening.
Mducharme, I tried the Key Editor and it didn’t work across the entire chart. Odd, ineffective software, imo. This said, I read up on this problem with the Studio Logic products and, in my case, I found the solution. The NC2x has two MIDI sends and two MIDI recieves. One source is the Send/Receive physical MIDI plugs on the keyboard (that can connect to my MOTU interface via two physical MIDI Send/Receive connections - that I am not using) and the other is the SINGLE USB send and receive connection that I am using. The SL keyboard gives you the ‘Globel’ option to turn either connections ON or OFF. I turned the physical MIDI plugs off and set the USB MIDI for exclusive use.
However, while I was at it there is also something I changed in the Cubase Studio Setup, too. The MIDI options in Cubase are somewhat ‘deep’, and actually too much so for my USB MIDI use option. So I turned every MIDI instance off except “MIDIIN2 NC2X”, which turns out to be the MIDI USB connection. Now everything works as it should. the Score sheet is perfect.
One last question, if I may, regarding the SL Globel Velosity setting of the keyboard? The Fatar bed on the NC2X is very responsive, and the Globel setting here gives you quite a range. If you have this option in your particular keyboard, what setting to you use? Default here is 35 but this seems a little light. Thanks for all your help here!
I’m afraid I don’t know on this. I don’t have a StudioLogic keyboard myself and have never had one. I was only familiar with this because people who have the StudioLogic keyboards often have such issues.
Having these overlapping notes can cause problems outside of the score as I mentioned - if the sampler cannot play back both notes exactly at the same time, you can get weird phasing potentially. If it can, you might get a doubling of amplitude where the notes are louder than they should be. But often people don’t even know they are there unless they happen to open the score editor and see the split stems.
I agree regarding the insight that seeing the Score can bring. It certainly opened my eyes, and yes, there were multi-note sections that did not sound right.
Well, there’s always room for improvement here. Thank you for your help!
