Search specific words in Mediabay?

Yes I did.

If I type in “wind” after “matches” is selected, I get “window” as well.

Try the same with “equals”.
Also make sure that you are not searching within attributes that can provide matching results.


Fredo

thanks for the suggestion, but this seems to only return results that are an exact match, so searching for ‘ice’ will not identify a sound effect called ‘crushing ice’ or ‘ice pick’.

i’m sure that previous versions of media bay were able to do this, or am i just thinking of pro tools?

also, fredo, thanks for your suggestion but, as lydiot says, i don’t think this actually filters out the unwanted words.

I was writing this post while Phobic78 was posting his… I’ll post anyway.

Indeed, The answer to the OP’s question is no, “Equals” (my suggestion, sorry) only matches an entire field, not a single word in a field.

As far as filtering out, you can use booleans, so you can filter out strings thus: -words

We did. Same results.

If you tried this, did your version of Nuendo omit whatever result was ‘longer’ (meaning if you type “wind” you do not get “window”) ?

This however requires that one knows all of the hits one does not want in advance and type them in, right?

Yep. It’s of limited use. There’s no filter for Whole Words Only.

Hmmm … I see. Got a point.
I however do not agree that the function should be changed.
What if we could add a space before or after the word?
"Wind "
That would give us the best of both worlds …

Fredo

Whatever is “standard” in search engines. I seem to recall Google previously allowing “” to ensure you only got what was in quotes, and nothing outside, and I think some search engines default to [space] meaning either [and] or [or] rather than only a word.

In short, intuitively speaking I think space to many would mean “or” or “and” because that’s how we type text generally. So I would prefer “”. It would also allow us to write things like;

“wind” forest

and get any hit on “wind” and “forest” but no “window” etc. We’d use both “” for making the word exclusively short and [space] to add a second search term.

But whatever is most prevalent is fine by me, or what most users prefer. The function is more important than which character to use in my opinion.

EDIT: I just checked and in MediaBay [space] seems to equal a boolean [+].

I definitely think space should be a factor, so yes. +1

It already is.

@Lydiot, what does space do?

It appears to function as [and]. So typing “key” in my currently selected database gives me four results, one of which has the word “clock” in it. So then typing “key clock” yields only that result.

Have you tried it?

Yes, I see. I was actually using it for that - without explicitly realizing it’s function. Thanks.

Hope to see a Whole Word filter in the future.

Well, I meant of course in respect to what Fredo suggested, but yes, I see my fault in expressing that. Thank you.

this is one of the few things that is well implemented in pro tools, but not nuendo. i haven’t actually used pro tools for a couple of years so i can’t remember how they do it. i think there is just some button or modifier key that makes it search for the whole word.

maybe somebody who currently uses both could check it out and report back?

There is no feature to search for complete words inside an attribute, I apologize and I wonder why that did not pop up on my desk earlier. We will treat it as a feature request, but it will be more than a no-brainer as far as I can think of it now.

Meanwhile, here is a hack for the MediaBay search parser you can use to find your “ice” …

Type into the “Search Results” filed, (or the logical search using the “matches”-operator) :

"ice %", "% ice"

This will unfortunately not find a simple “Ice”. but “ice pick” and “crushing ice” as well as “crushing ice pick”.

Will that omit words like “police”?

I tried it with and without the quotation marks, still got “slice”, “police” and every other word that has the concurrent letters “ice” in it. John.

Sorry, John you are right, my test content was too limited.

What I did, when I was searching for single words, was excluding every string that contained the search explicitly, like

ice -lice -fice

to remove “police” and “slice” and “office”, but that’s too painful for everyday use.