I still often find myself in need to be able to search the key command keys.
joakim
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Not quite sure what you mean - do you mean something like
āI want to quickly know what Shift-D doesā
If so, in Preferences->Key Commands choose a command you donāt use (I use āAbout Doricoā) and then click the Press Shortcut panel and type away. Youāll get a warning of a clash with some info if the key command has been set already.
It would be great if the Print Summary webpage was searchable by keyboard shortcut as well as by command.
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Maybe youāre after this?
The first way to reach it doesnāt work for me, going there through preferences does
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I know this. I canāt find there. I donāt understand the logic.
sometimes itās the sign, sometimes itās the name of the sign.
this is my normal shortcut dance, but you donāt have an overview.
and sometimes I forgot what ācmd-somethingā does, I see a flash in a menu but donāt see anything changing.
I only know (sorry) that in sibelius you could search for functionality and keys and that saved my life over there when I used that.
Iām also using keyboard maestro for triggering macros and that can overrule default key commands I donāt know about.
also linked to this knowledge/control/puzzle quest is:
I Miss a reset for only the actual key command you editing
the reset button reset all key commands.
there are many key commands. who wants to do this ?
if youāre start to use custom key commands you will not stop at three. soon enough youāll have a ānested treeā of different commands to use.
and often the advice given around key commands problem is to actually go into the system folder and look into and arrange the actual .json files, if you really want to through away your whole key command setup the best way is to through away the .en.keycommands.json file.
actually when I first came here I used this button as the local one. the button that reset this fonctionality. if you chose a key clashing with another in another scope etc, but you donāt remember what the default key command was, there is now no way to come back to thatā¦ then youāll use the āreset key commandā button and can start again. but not throwing three weeks of puzzling awayā¦
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If this can helpā¦ Iāve always thought that having a good table in front of eyes is better than anything else.
everything here is changed in my setupā¦
with a french keyboard, I center everything around the arrows and num-padā¦ with all impossible combinations of ctrl ctrl-alt ctrl-cmd shift alt etc etc to keep the hand in one place.
in finale I even used double stroke key commands like 1 2 and 1 3 etcā¦ but dorico doesnāt seem to take thatā¦ thay have the double tap duration but only if you use the original key. and the numbers on a french keyboard is under shiftā¦
soā¦
joakim
however, I saw this on the forum, and it seems that itās possible
When I was working in Finale, I set always my keyboard in American, because many things didnāt works with French keyboard layout.
Iām beginning to wonder, in practice, whether this choice would be best for Dorico too : English interface, and English keyboard mapping.
Indeed, French interface is not very operational.
I actually set the dorico keyboard language to english.
but the computer system is in french and the physical keyboard is french.
then I playā¦
haha
Yes, but you need to set Dorico to English too (preferences), + the keyboard too (System preferences > Keyboard). (see screenshot below).
Of course, the keyboard is still physically in AZERTY, but you get used to it ; look at all the keyboard mappings I have on my computerā¦
Sometimes, I use a QWERTY Apple keyboard (Bluetooth) ; thatās works fine on my MacBookPro.
dorico is in english, the key command keyboard is in english.
but my physical keyboard is in french and I canāt have the physical keyboard in another language than the keys I see. otherwise I loose myself.
I canāt hit comma to have an Mā¦ (itās me)
to do that I need an āiphoneā keyboard that changes the keys by the languageā¦ next time
*** but nothing of this solves the need to be able to search the key commandsā¦
joakim
Hi Joakim. Iāve been dealing with the French keyboard layout and modifying stuff in order to make things better for me. I could share my json file, but itās probably not suited to your workflow because we have different brains. However, I think I can help.
If you donāt find the shortcut meaning in the help menu>shortcuts as has been suggested before, you could open your keycommands_fr.json (or keycommands_en.json since youāve chosen to tell Dorico your keyboard is an English one, Iām not sure itās a good ideaā¦) and perform a findā¦ action.
This user file is in the usual folder (Roaming/Steinberg/Dorico 5 or smth like that for PC, user library/Application support /Steinberg /Dorico 5 on mac). Itās quite convenient to study it, copy it for backup, use it to create new shortcuts (last thing I created is a direct interval creator to go faster than the shift-i routeā¦)
I used to create the French version for Notation Express before they finally used the API provided by Dorico with version 4, that means I am quite experienced with that json fileā¦
You can come and discuss this in French on the Dorico for French speaking users group on Facebook, you are welcome!
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but the .json file only contains the key command changes. not the list.
Iāll start to do hands on subjects next time Iām missing something in this area.
hopefully Iām missing something.
Also, the print summary page shows the commands in functionality alphabetic order. actually, I think half of my question is perhaps solved if one could sort the commands in keys alphabetic orderā¦
and when we can search on functionality I find functionalities I didnāt even thought of.
it would be the same if I search in the keys.
also, the colors in the summary, turqoise fro alt+shift, but the list is so long itās impossible to get an overview of the alt-shift keys to get an idea what they are covering as subjectā¦ if I could, on this page, put āalt + shiftā and have the list of all keys that are using alt-shift, and then I could do that in all combinations to start to get a view of this key command landscapeā¦
Iāll come back
Alors, peut-ĆŖtre, le chapitre raccourcis-clavier dans le manuel franƧais de Dorico (1700 pages !)
Je prĆ©fĆØre largement Dumas et sa Comtesse de Charny (little-known book, but the only one set during the French Revolution ; I do recommand it)
jāai tout refait. leur shortcuts ne me conviennent pas du tout.or il faut que je saches oĆ¹ je mets mes pieds, pour ne pas trop casserā¦
mais, cāest une idĆ©eā¦ je vais regarderā¦
jjj
I know this and it contains the changes Iāve done. but that is not the whole truth. and there are bugs here also. Iāve already written about how, each time I open dorico after quit, I have to manually go into the key commands dialog and delete hidden defaults commands that shadow my chosen command.
but no returnā¦
thank you jesper,
j
Vous pouvez inspecter le fichier json dans lāapplication (il suffit de la dezipper lorsquāelle nāest pas active, vous pouvez alors dupliquer le fichier ailleurs et lāouvrir dans votre appli de code favorite). LĆ vous aurez vraiment tous les raccourcis dāusine. En revanche, tous les changements que vous apportez sont dans le fichier dont on a parlĆ© plus tĆ“t.
You can inspect the json file in the application (just unzip it when it is not active, you can then duplicate the file elsewhere and open it in your favorite code app). There you will really have all the factory shortcuts. On the other hand, all the changes you make are in the file we talked about earlier.
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No, in the application package should be just the default ones and any additions or changes would be in the user library unless I misunderstood something.
Jesper
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yes, sorry, I didnāt see that you was inside the program.
Iām not going there, thatās not the way to do thingsā¦
and I will only screw up. yes youāll do a copy of that document, but it will perhaps change etcā¦
this is not a method for normal users to dig into the resources of an app.
weāre talking user interface. and this is not.
since we have this glorious possibility to customize our shortcuts we also need the tools to do it right.