Separate barlines and repeats for different player groups

I am using Dorico 5 to copy a work originally notated with SCORE. Is there a way to 1) change the section barline to a single staff barline (cf. Tuba staff) and to have repeat signs for different player groups. Dorico wants to place repeat signs for everyone rather than be able to have only certain instruments repeat certain passages. See SCORE example provided. Thanks to anyone who might help me do this.

To input a barline only on the selected staves or staves across which the caret extends, press Alt/Opt-Return in the Popover (rather than just Return.

I’m not sure if it’s possible with repeats though.

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I tried this and it still creates barlines on all staves. When you say, press alt-Return, do you mean press alt-Enter? I don’t have a key that says Return, unless you mean Backspace. Is Enter the same as Return? Still doesn’t work. The directions also warn: “You can only input barlines onto single staves that already have an independent time signature.” How do you put a time signature only on one staff? When I invoke a new time signature, the program automatically puts the new meter on all staves.

Again, when you confirm the Shift+M popover to add the time signature, hold the Alt key when you press Return (or Enter), and the time signature will be created only on the staff on which either the caret was shown or the staff where the first selected item was found.

See Step #6:

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They are often used interchangeably. But if you have a numeric keypad on your keyboard Return usually means the key on the main “QWERY” section and Enter refers to the key on the keypad.

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Mac keyboards say Return and most Windows keyboards say Enter on the same key.

Daniel: Most of these suggestions solved the issues that I raised. However, there is an additional problem with the harp and piano parts, in that both have a cross staff situation, and both the single barline and upper staff time signature fail to work on the upper staves (see example). The program detects that the notes were all created on the lower staff, and refuses to transfer the upper staff barline and time signature. What to do?

Sorry, I’m not quite following.

Did you want the barlines in the grand staffs joined? (as they normally would be) Likewise for the time signatures?

If so, when entering the time signature or barline, make sure the caret is extended to both staves.

Is that the problem you mean?

Daniel: I was able to fix the harp and piano time signatures by using your caret extending method. But I am not able to fix the trumpet staff barlines because they won’t line up with the others on the page. Any suggestions on this?

Sorry to be annoying but I don’t understand.

Do you want Trumpets, Trombones and Tuba to all have the same barlines?

If not, what is the goal?

2-staff instruments can still have separate meters, so you can just copy any single-staff meters (or barlines) to the other staff with Alt-click.

The trumpets and tuba are playing together, so their barlines should line up, as in the example at the very top of this page. The horns and trombones are playing aleatoric, repetitive passages within the framework of a 4/4 measure, thus their single-barline should line up with the non- repetitive passages. I just don’t know how to get the single-staff barlines to line up. Again, I want this page to look like the example at the top of this Forum page.

Interesting issue. Could you post a Dorico example file?

Here are the issues I am grappling with:

  1. In the passage for the horns, I cannot seem to get the repeat barlines to replace the single barline at the end, without creating repeat barlines for everyone. Using the key only creates a repeat barline on a single staff.
  2. The trombones end repeat barline will not line up with the other barlines on the page. Any suggestions? I have included an example.

It appears that barlines are left-aligned, and the dots of the trombone repeat barline line up with the other lines.

Clearly that is not what looks good to you; perhaps down the line the Development Team will find a way users can adjust that.

You may be right about the dots. But how to get the repeat double bar for both horn staves to replace the single bar?

You can just select it and Alt-click onto the Horn staves to copy. Since this involves holding the Alt key, it includes the one-staff assignment.

Sorry, if this would be better as a seperate post, but I think it kinda suits here.


How would you tackle this kind of placement of repeat signs in Dorico? If you were to not care about playback?