I’ve seen the 15 minute video on youtube regarding control room and it has been useful. However I’m not entirely sure how to go about the physical connections at the back on my interface, and then on toward the performers headphone.
Example setup: I want to record together
Drummer (playing E-Drum kit triggering VST superior drummer kit).
The available inputs/outputs on my MR816 CSX are all 8 inputs and outputs 3-8.
So, I obviously plug in a mic into channel 1, line guitar pickup into 2, line lead into 3. The drummer is triggering Superior Drummer via the Roland E-Drums.
So my big question is, how do I assign the outputs in the control room setup? I ask because ideally I want each performer to have a stereo headphone mix. So to use the vocalists headphone mix as an example, do I take the outputs 3 & 4 and into a single stereo jack (female for the headphone connection to plug into), i.e. a ‘Y’ cable? Or am I way off?
I think I will be able to work out the routing of cue sends but the physical outs to headphones is the bit I’m not getting.
You can have up to 5 stereo mixes out of your MR816, 4 cues with monitoring. Assign outputs for your cue channels. If you want to use all 4 cue channels + monitor, one cue has to be assigned to a digital output. Go to Devices - Audio Hardware Setup and assign two of the cues to Phones 1 and 2. Make sure one of them is the digital output using cue (assuming you don’t actually want to use the digital output). Now you have two players covered with headphones. For the remaining two, buy a headphone amplifier or two adapters 2 mono -> 1 stereo.
You can do that, you just won´t get a very loud signal
If you want 4 different mixes - yes
The controlroom does not negate the use of a headphone amp, just as it does not negate the need for a proper power amp for your speakers, or just like the mixer does not negate the need for a proper mic preamp on the input stage.
Al - the main ‘outs’ of most multi-output Audio Interfaces are of course line-level signals only; no power amp component on these. If they did, they’d have a physical volume control of some sort, to adjust individual output.
thinkingcap has your answers.!
Good luck; should end up with a nice, flexible system for you (and musicians) to work with. The Control Room will really come in to its own.
Good question actually.
I ahve always thought it odd that these interfaces - Fireface, Saffire Pro40, etc. have 1/4" mono jacks on the back. Why not XLR’s?
For that matter, if, as the designers claim the outputs are to used for headphones mixes or cue mixes, why not have four, five or six headphone outputs on the interface, with suitable software routing?
I suspect the manufacturers just copy each other without thinking too deeply about how people actually use the products.
Another one: Why do so many interfaces have just two Hi-Z inputs, and 8 line-level? Could it be that they have not envisaged the possibilty that a band night have three guitar-players or four? Five? How many bands have a vocalist, bass player and three synthesizers? Ha. [Yes I am sure there must be some. ]
Test your equipment before purchasing a headphone amp if you don’t have any other use for it. At least my AKG K240 Studio phones could blow my ears away when connected to MR816’s regular outputs. You’ll probably do fine with just Y-adapters.
I’ve used one of these before and if memory serves there are indeed 8 outputs with separate output volumes. But there are only two ins. So you would only be able to generate 2 distinct cue mixes fed to this device. Each output on the headphone amp is switchable between the A and B input. So if you were hoping for four individual headphone mixes this won’t do but it will of course allow volume control of the total mix level for each output.
And the one I used was really noisy, but can’t be absolutely sure that it wasn’t noise BEFORE the headphone amp.
Ah ok … sorry that seems to have been a curve that I threw you … yes it indeed looks like you’re right … I don’t remember the unit I used having individual ins but indeed that looks like the case (sorry for any confusion/anxiety caused)