I need to get rid of the key signature because it is creating havoc with the spacing. Note that the “Show Preamble” is not shown as active even though the preamble is obviously active in the ossia.
I have looked high and low for an option to turn off the preamble. And even if I find one, how dos one show the clefs and not the key signature?
Did you select the “create ossia” option? or simply added two staves?
Because I just tried it in one of my piano pieces, and the key signature did not show in the ossia measures.
To create the grand staff ossia, just select both staves of your original music, then in the “staff” context menu “create ossia”, and “above”. It will create empty staves above, slightly smaller the way an ossia measure should be.
And I believe that if you select a specific number of measures in your original staves to create the ossia, it will create that number of ossia measures.
(Ignore the vertical spacing in my example here… there’s obviously no room for a grand staff ossia on this page)
Thanks @Michel_Edward Yes, I created the ossia using the ossia option. When the staves are created, no clefs or key signatures appear at first. Then when one adds clefs the key signatures appear; at least that is what is happening in my case.
I am sure that I found an option to not show the “preamble” in Dorico parlance, but could only find such an option for ossias that start at the beginning of a system or something like that. I tried that option, and that didn’t work. Now I can’t even find that option. The controls for ossias are found all over the place, and I can never remember whether it is Engraving, Notation or Layout option or where it is in one of those. Truly maddening.
ah, you wanted the clefs… sorry, I didn’t take that into consideration with my example.
Your example just showed up. Yes, I can do that too. But now try adding a clef.
Sorry, we just crossed.
There may be a simpler way, but it’s possible by adding a short value at the start of the bar, inserting the clefs afterwards, and then removing the rests and adjusting in Engrave Mode:
I did find the following work-around. I just brought the ossia back a 32nd note into the preceeding measure. Now I can at least get rid of the unwanted barline in another program if it is not possible in Dorico. ‘
aha, yes, I tried it and the key signature automatically appears when I add the clefs.
I guess this is an option that would be useful for those who either engrave scores with key signatures, or use key signatures in their own writing. I so rarely do that it hasn’t popped up as an issue for me.
That’s a great work-around, @charles_piano Thank you so much. I may try that as well; although I must confess that adding an extra 16th note in Dorico, fills me with dread, regardless of insert mode.
In any case, I am finding the behavior of “Show preamble” in the properties panel mystifying. One would think that it would simply make the preamble appear or not. It seems to do nothing.
Another possibility is to edit the tonality system, create a new accidental with an unusual glyph and pitch delta 1, create a new key signature with seven instances of the new accidental, apply the new key signature where the ossia begins, restore the normal key signature at the beginning of the next system, and delete the glyph of the new accidental to make the key signature where the ossia begins disappear.
Thank you, @johnkprice I was also reading online about going atonal for that measure.
In any case, I would like to make feature request of an option to allow ossias with clefs only.
