Show/Hide can be a powerful tool. Especially in Finale I am using those things quite often in a way listed below:
Show in Scroll-view only
Show in Score only
Hide in Print-out
Show on screen only
Would you be so kind to tell us how Dorico acually would handle a show/hide feature?
We don’t as yet have a completely general hide/show mechanism in Dorico. The basic gist of it, though, is that you can specify that an item should be hidden, which will generally hide it in the current layout. Depending on the object, a hidden thing will generally draw as a signpost rather than as a greyed-out version of the thing in question, because hidden things shouldn’t take up rhythmic space. So a hidden accidental, for example, appears as a signpost above the note or chord in question.
Signposts are also used for things like system and frame breaks. They look like this:
You said in the presentation that adding a slur to a selection, e.g. a horn section, means that editing one slur (later) changes slurs in all horns that were part of the original selection. Is there a visual cue where those group selections occur and can the “link” be broken if needed?
Also, is there a way to show (by color, for example) where changes were done manually to lets say note positions, re-sized/slanted stems etc.? Maybe sort of default/custom switch for the view?
The plan is that elements that are linked together, like slurs or dynamics shared between staves, will show that they are linked by all of them becoming somewhat coloured when any of them is selected; the selection colour in Dorico is a bright orange, so we plan to make the other elements a sort of darker, perhaps burnt orange colour when one of them is selected.
As for showing objects that have been overridden in Engrave mode, we don’t have any current plans for this. Many items will have at least one property overridden, which means that most items would end up showing this state, and since an item can be edited in many different ways, having a single colour to show that an object has a property overridden would not be enormously helpful.
Hi Daniel: when you say “Depending on the object, a hidden thing will generally draw as a signpost rather than as a greyed-out version of the thing in question, because hidden things shouldn’t take up rhythmic space.”, does that mean that when you hide an object, whatever else is not hidden in the measure (notes, rests, etc.) are reshuffled to make maximum use of the space?
That’s really clever …
Yes, the idea behind using signposts rather than drawing the object in grey is that if the spacing is not going to take that object into account, then it would end up overprinting something else, and it would be difficult to select it again in order to change it, or show it again.
Rather than reaching for the View Menu and then selecting the signpost you want, could there be a couple of keystrokes to View all selected Signposts / Hide all selected Signposts? That way you can set up what you want to see - the chances are that wouldn’t change that much - and just use keystrokes to show or hide them.
I’m not sure where Dorico is heading with the whole Show / Hide aspect but personally I think the signposts point the way!!
Daniel, point taken on numerous overrides, however…
“having a single colour to show that an object has a property overridden would not be enormously helpful.”
It is helpful in Finale, where I can see what has been adjusted in a particular layout.
Even better would be a simple way to choose if an adjustment should apply to one/all layouts.