Simpler rhythmic grid choices - feature request

[michaelstarobin]

Does anyone really use the dotted 16th note (semi-quaver) grid very often?

All of my changing of the rhythmic grid is between eighth notes (quavers) and 16th notes (semi-quavers). The dotted 16th note simply gets in my way - I click on it by mistake or don’t advance far enough if I’m using the keyboard shortcut.

I certainly can see where it might be useful in unusual compound meters. But that rare case doesn’t seem to be enough cause for skipping over those choices the rest of the time.

How about an option in preferences to not show the dotted grid choices? Or how about letting the user choose which values are shown. Then I could use a simple toggle switch between just two choices. (In the rare case I need something else, I could go into preferences and turn on the other choices.)

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And without changing the topic above, here’s my old man (alte kaker) gripe for today - please feel no need to respond, I don’t expect these things to change - but I want to get them off my chest.

I’ve always regretted Sibelius and Dorico’s choice to attach articulations to notes. In Finale I could copy just articulations (without the notes) to other lines (along with slurs and dynamics.) And I would love to hide an articulation that I’ve added just for playback reasons. (I already do a lot of double dynamics - one hidden for playback and one showing but ‘suppressed’.) Haven’t figured out how to hide an articulation. Perhaps a hide switch could be added in the lower panel?

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND - why does Dorico allow tuplets to be independent of the notes? So many times I go to copy a passage in a score and I find that the notes but not their tuplet markings were selected. Is there some kind of purpose to the tuplet (and its inherent rhythmic value) having independence from the noteheads? I know this is one of many central aspects of the software’s design and never expect it to be changed - just curious WHY it exists.

[DanielMuzMurray]

@michaelstarobin

In Finale I could copy just articulations (without the notes) to other lines (along with slurs and dynamics.)

Copying and pasting articulations - Dorico Pro - 6.1

[DanielMuzMurray]

@michaelstarobin

Is there some kind of purpose to the tuplet (and its inherent rhythmic value) having independence from the noteheads?

Not an “answer” to your question but a solution is hinted at.

Copy/Paste with hidden items

In general I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Dorico’s principle that you have to be able to select something in order to copy and paste it. If it were to start randomly including items you hadn’t selected, that would introduce other problems. However, I agree that it would be helpful more often than not if tuplets were included when copying their notes, and that is something that we have been discussing as something to implement in future. Hairpins are a bit trickier: you should find t…

[Janus]

@michaelstarobin

How about an option in preferences to not show the dotted grid choices? Or how about letting the user choose which values are shown.

It is simple to use key commands for each grid value. I use Ctrl6 to set it to crotchets and similar for the other durations so it’s easy to remember

@michaelstarobin

Is there some kind of purpose to the tuplet (and its inherent rhythmic value) having independence from the noteheads?

If they were tied to noteheads, how would you created nested tuplets?

[michaelstarobin]

@Janus

It is simple to use key commands for each grid value. I use Ctrl6 to set it to crotchets and similar for the other durations so it’s easy to remember

Great idea!

@Janus

If they were tied to noteheads, how would you created nested tuplets?

I would put it to you that nested tuplets are a rare occasional use of notation. To make the much more common selection and copying of simple triplets more difficult (in order to ease the use of nested tuplets) is not the best prioritizing of the user interface.