Skipping bars in repeated part

Hi everybody,

I have a special problem with repeating. I want to skip 8 bars in the part that is played the second time. Experimenting with de dal segno results in skipping the 8 bars the first time and not the second time. Maybe it is just a simple problem, but I can not find the solution. Thank you in advance.

Here is a repeat structure in which the playback sequence is bars 1-8, 3-4, 7-10:

To avoid skipping bars on the first pass, add a D.S. and a Segno at the rhythmic position where you want to start skipping bars on the second pass, set their Marker index property to 2 and hide them. To get the repeat to play after adding the hidden D.S., go to Library > Playback Options > Repeats and activate Play repeats after D.S./D.C. jump. Now add the D.S. for the second pass at a different rhythmic position than the hidden D.S. and then move it to the same position. Finally, add a Segno where the skipped bars should end.

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Thank you very much John. It works perfect. Although I have to say that it is a bit cumbersome for a relative simple thing. I hope that there will be a better solution with a next update. Maybe it is for the programmers more complicated than we musicians can imagine.

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I’ve never seen a repeat structure quite like this. What about having bars 5-8 in the first ending and bars 7-10 in the second ending? You would need to repeat the content of bars 7-8. I think this would be clearer for the players.

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This is of course the normal situation. However, in this case the first time is about 100 bars. The second time is with the bars 50-58 skipped. So it is the question what is the best way to write this down. I had once a rehearsal with a “number 1” of 30 bars. It takes a lot of time to explain how it works. What is wisdom? Maybe better to just write it out.

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I have seen a pop song with a shorter second verse (so a similar situation to yours) notated with first and second endings added in the middle of the repeat. (Unconnected to the repeat sign!) Weird and unusual notation, but I understood what they meant and it saved a lot of space compared to writing both verses out in full.

I think that approach would be more clear than jumping forward to a segno

Interesting idea.. so something like this?


(I added the “both times” because Dorico can’t display just one ending, but you could also do that with the line tool).

I agree it looks weird but also somehow clear in terms of what it means. I don’t think I’d actually use this myself but it might help the OP!

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Exactly! “Angels” by Robbie Williams is such a case… :wink: :+1: