First of all: Thanks for the amplitude automation option. I was asking something like that since SL8 !!! Very useful!
Bugs:
When vertical zoom in, you loose the possibility to edit the upper points of the amplitude automation because the vertical dragger remains fixed so it is not possible to reach the points out of the current zoom view. Please fix that as soon as possible !!!
Cut to new layer does not copy the volume automation (it should be possible to be selected as an option)
Request:
Please enable the possibility to see the volume automations overlapped on the spectrogram view in order to edit automation without the waveform view opened so save space on the screen monitor.
Please enable the possibility e to use the Contextual menu (right click) from the waveform view. It is currently possible from the Spectral view (cut to new layer, copy to new layer and so…)
Please enable the possibility to make time selection from the waveform view. It is not possible.
Here again: automatic amplitude crossfade between overlapped layers. It will save a lot of time and avoid lot of manually amplitude envelope editing.
Yes! Can confirm some bugs (mainly particularly selecting the actual envelope button), however the reason why I stopped reporting bugs is because I don’t believe Steinberg cares about bugs being fixed. Everytime I attempted to report a bug or a problem I was left feeling frustrated, so I stopped doing it all together.
The last time I tried reporting a problem, I first initially posted about the problem, then when that wasn’t good enough, I went through the trouble of recording an actual video demonstrating the problem, then when I attempted to post the video the forum told me that my video exceeded the forums 4mb limit, then I had to compress the video and had to do all these other things in order to do one thing.
I believe Steinberg and the main developer (@Robin_Lobel) are well aware of some of these issues, however it’s up to them to care enough about resolving these issues. As for me, when I attempted to report some of these issues and these bugs and realized that Steinberg had a very SUBTLE (very SUBTLE) (in this SUBTLE “quite quitting” way) passive-aggressive attitude about helping users report bugs on Spectralayers, I stopped altogether.
If Steinberg can change the forum rules and allow users to help report bugs then I will gladly contribute.
Hi, I’m not sure what you’re refering to in particular. While I can’t respond to everything, I read every single post here, and make note of all requests and issue reports. More than 80% of the issues reported here are fixed within the next 2 months, and at least half of the new features in each major and each patch releases are user requests, so it’s a bit unfair to say I’m not paying attention!
Regarding the first 2 things you mention :
It’s not a bug, it’s by design, to keep the volume points actually anchored with the power scale - so that it makes sense in term of power, and to keep consistency. Are you asking to have 2 different power scale in the same display?
I rather see that as a feature request than a bug, but request noted.
I’m very very happy to read your feedback Robin.
This is a bug: I have made a video for you.
I’m asking to be able to drag the vertical bar when vertical zoomed is done into the waveform view in order to be able to catch de points of the amplitude automation and editing them in vertical zoom. When vertical zoom out is done, I cannot drag again the points that I’ve created. The points disappear.
@Gustavo_Delgado Ah I see, you’re using the scroll bar on the side to navigate the waveform. This one is limited to the 0dB;0dB range, hence why you can’t get your points above 0dB back. If you use the mouse wheel instead (either on the scroll bar or on the power scale next to it) you’ll be able to zoom in/out to any power range.
That being said this behavior could be improved so that the scroll bar matches the default +3db/+3dB range instead.
I certainly wouldn’t call it a bug, tho I’d say it is a request. I very often work zoomed in on amplitude in waveform display and would like to retain access to the Evelope Editor when zoomed in
there is a tiny bug anyway because when I make vertical zoom out from the vertical bar a certain number of the points of the amplitude automation are gone. This is just a normal action with an unexpected behaviour.
Ok Robin. Now I understand the point. It could be great to be able to edit amplitude envelope points with vertical zoom in, it should be more detailed.
I’m not offended at all…I don’t think you should have deleted your previous post; you make good points
I just thought I might not have used the proper terminology because your post was getting reactions…and mine was not…plus you made a video! Which I did not…and video better explains the functionality witnessed than text
I’m using mousewheel mainly
Envelope Edit Line inaccessible when zoomed in on waveform height in the event the display doesn’t match the power of the zoom is what you are saying?
…ok, yes, I see that now…
this functionality is not explained in the documentation, thanks for letting us know on the forum
this is by design?
It is by design that if you set an enveloppe point at say, 0dB, and then you zoom in vertically, then the enveloppe point should follow exactly that zoom-in action, and stick to what the power scale shows on the right side.
Similarly, if you set a time marker on the timeline, and if you then zoom in or move the timeline, the time marker should exactly follow the time line.
Same goes for spectral markers : if you set a point in the spectrogram using the Spectral Marker tool and then zoom or pan, the spectral marker will stay exactly where you set it in the spectrogram, following the zoom and pan actions.
Personally I can deal with how the envelops currently work in SpectraLayers, and I’m happy that they exist at all now, but I also very much like the way how WaveLab handles envelopes (in a montage).
The level envelope in WaveLab is always centered for 0dB gain, with upwards gain of up to +6dB (could sometimes be higher), and downwards gain to -infinity, regardless of the zoom-level of the waveform. So I guess WaveLab does use two different scales for envelopes (static) and the waveform (dynamic with zoom), which is very useful if you work with low levels and need to make a sample-perfect match or adjustment between two overlapping/crossfading layers.
On the other hand, the current consistent system in SpectraLayers allows for very precise level adjustment if you just zoom in enough with disabled auto-centering, which may also be very useful in some cases.
I’d say it is a request. I very often work zoomed in on amplitude in waveform display and would like to retain access to the Evelope Editor when zoomed in 