Will it be possible to flatten slurs across long phrases as can be done in Score? Also, will the center of normal slurs have any extra thickness as in Score? (see attachment SLUR.png)
Will the dashed slurs look like slurs (versus a dashed line in Product B that doesn’t even center itself across the length of the slur)? (see attachment SLUR2.png)
Will it be possible to have dashed ties? Or partial ties, or even partial dashed ties? This comes up when there are multiple endings, and the tie doesn’t carry through to all of them. Easy in Score, very painful in Product B.
Yes, you can specify that a slur should be drawn with a flat curvature, yes, you can make slurs dashed (and even half-dashed, i.e. solid at the left-hand side and dashed at the right-hand side, or vice versa), you can add vertical editorial strokes to slurs, and the dashes look much prettier than those slightly wonky-looking SCORE ones (no offence intended).
You can also have dashed and half-dashed ties, as well. A partial dashed tie is perhaps not possible at the moment, unfortunately.
regarding TIES… will it be possible to show only the start and end of long ties? This is often preferable and increases legibility in dense chordal situations, in organ music e.g…
I understood that there are different styles for ties. Some composers, like Hans Werner Henze uses straight line (like gliss line) between notes as a tie. Will this be also supported in Dorico? I hope it will be so, because it would be useful feature when writing music in open meter.
Not in the first version, no, but maybe in the future.
No, this is also not supported at the moment. I guess you could achieve a completely straight line for a tie by way of our properties interface by specifying no curvature (i.e. no height and no shoulders) and no change in line thickness over the length of the line, should you really need to do it before such time as we are able to add it.
I must say, the Properties window looks like one of the coolest features of Dorico. The ability to click virtually anything and manually edit the properties (like you could in SCORE) has definitely been something I’ve wanted for a while.
I hope that we will at least be able to white-out the area where a tie crosses a time or key signature change, but this is somewhat different to what Frank is asking for, I think, or at least could be different, since you would normally draw the tie as if it continued into the area that is whited-out, rather than being drawn as two separate ties either side of the key/time change.
In my opinion, what is very important with ties is
Ability of changing the curvature
Ability of changing the start & end points
This because in crowded scores the interference with a tie is quite probable. In the last versions of Cubase Score, this is only possible hiding the tie and drawing a slur by hand. In previous versions it was just impossible (if you wanted a right sounding tie )
Dorico has more options for tie placement than you can shake a stick at. Although it will be possible to adjust the curvature and placement of ties in Engrave mode, we’ve worked hard at positioning them automatically that you should rarely need to, even in crowded multi-voice situations.
Daniel, my apologies for dragging this ancient thread into the light of day, but:
I have notices that all editorial slurs that I have seen (mostly singing Renaissance choral music) the editorial stroke is indeed vertical, whereas in the current version of Dorico (4.3.20.1130) the strokes are instead perpendicular to the slur’s baseline. Is there some setting somewhere I have missed, to make the strokes vertical? Or is this a change since the settings in 2016?
It is indeed a change in settings. I can’t remember who it was who requested that we change it, but we did at some point after we first introduced the stroke make it such that it follows the rotation of the slur.
Oh dear, guilty as charged, it was me that requested the change, though I didn’t know that there would be no option to retain the vertical style. Certainly things I’ve worked on, such as Musica Britannica, require strokes to be perpendicular to slurs, and I much prefer them that way. I have seen some recent editions with vertical strokes, but I wonder if they are only that way because they’ve been done in Sibelius where there is no automatic facility for them, and positioning and angling short lines is very tricky.