[SOLVED] Percussion sounds when auditioned, but not on playback

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I don’t know if my issue is related, but let’s try to add it to the above.

I’m creating Expression and Percussion Maps for Orchestral Tools Berlin Free Orchestra.

Sine Player is hosted in Vienna Ensemble Pro. All the pitched instruments, apart for the mallets, play well after assigning them an Expression Map.

Mallets, to which I’ve applied the default Velocity + ModWheel EM, don’t play. If I select a note in Dorico, or start playback, I see the notes being received on the virtual keyboard of Sine Player. But there is no sound. If I play them from the Sine virtual keyboard, I can hear the sound.

The same happens with unpitched percussions. Percussion Maps seem to work. I select a note in Dorico, or start playback, and I see the correct note in the kit, in Sine, being selected. But no sound from playback.

Harp, to which I’ve assigned the same Velocity + ModWheel EM, plays fine.

Audio outputs are correctly assigned (and I can hear the sound when playing the virtual keyboard). The same MIDI ports play with other instruments in Sine.

There is something specific for percussions, either pitched or unpitched. Any hint on what may be happening?

Paolo

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Rather than reawakening a two-plus-year-old thread, I’ve split your post into a new one.

This kind of problem has come up before, but there’s no single cause. Can you please provide a minimal project that contains your percussion map and the percussion kit you’re trying to drive using that percussion map, with just a few notes?

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Thank you, Daniel. I’ve sent you the materials via PM. I hope they can help understand if it’s a bug or a user mistake.

Paolo

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Hi Paulo, Do written notes sound when you play back the instrument(s) which stay mute when you record them?

I had this with some VSL percussion as well. One thing which might help is to add an expression map with just natural defined.

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  • If I select them in the score, they don’t play. But I can see them in the virtual keyboard of Sine Player.
  • If I play the score, they don’t sound. But I can see them in the virtual keyboard of Sine Player.
  • If I play them in the virtual keyboard of Sine Player, they sound.

The percussion and mallet instruments play when directly instantiated as VST Instruments in Dorico.

The Velocity + ModWheel expression map contains a Natural item. It is assigned to no data, but I tried to assign it to C1 (the default note shown as C0 in Berlin Free Orchestra’s percussion and mallet instruments). It didn’t make any change.

I’ve not tried with other instruments. I’ll try later.

Paolo

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Hi Paulo, As I have OT Muted Brass in a VEP template I did a small test adding an additional VEP Pro instance with the Syne Player and 3 mallet instruments of the Berlin Free Orchestra;. Marimba, Glockenspiel and Xylophone.

I added two additional outputs to the instance. So Marimba to output 1-2, Glockenspiel to 3-4 and Xylophone to 5-6.

In Dorico I have this VEP Pro instance connected and route Marimba to channel 1, Glockenspiel to channel 2 and Xylophone to channel 3. All to port 1. All three sound correctly with the Dorico default EM (as I only have the free version which has only single hits no real EM is used).

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Thanx to John and Daniel, I could find the operator’s error: I forgot to change the MIDI channel assigned to the instruments in Sine Player, to make them match the channel in Dorico and the Vienna Ensemble Pro channel. As a consequence, the players could not find the right route for the data.

Paolo