Some thoughts and suggestions after completing the first work with Dorico

Hi there,
so, i almost completed my first work with Dorico. After the ordeal to unlearn “Sibelius methods” and get used to the new way of Dorico, i really appreciate the concept behind the software and like the many possibilities and helpful functions.
Still, i ran into some issues, which i think should be considered in a future update (my apologies, if they are already possible, and i am only ignorant). Maybe someone from the Dorico team could give some hint if they are planned?

  1. Possibility to hide Hide/Show items in Score only or Parts only: i think this should be absolutely possible, in a simple manner. An example: i use to show metronome marks only in the Full score, and hide them in the parts. There they only fill up space, players should look at the conductor for the tempo :slight_smile:

  2. Adding cresc. and decr. lines within a single note (or multiple tied together) should be simpler, especially if there follows no final dynamic mark. I ended up splitting a whole note in half or untie them, inserting then the cresc. decresc. and retie them. There should be some kind of Alt-Shift-Arrow method to extend/reduce a simple cresc. line along the grid while inserting.

  3. As i already wrote in an earlier thread, selecting multiple bars of multiple staves (on which some instruments start at beat 1, some at beat 3 and other only at beat 1 of the second bar) and hitting shift-D for the dynamics popover, and then inserting “p<”, Dorico should insert only the “piano cresc.” at staves with a) music on it and b) at the the position of the first note (ex. beat 1 for some, beat 3 for some, and beat 1 of second bar for the other). By the way, would be nice, if the popover scrolls down with the view. If the selection is vertically large, it pops up out of view above the top staff selected. But that’s only a small matter.

  4. Tempo marks are too rigid. I like to use “Più mosso”, “Meno mosso”, “Poco meno mosso” AND adding a metronome mark. This turned out to be a impossible task. Dorico considers this terms stubornly as Relative changes, no way to add an absolute metronome mark. Example: Tempo initially is “Adagio (q=60)”, then comes a “rit.”, after that i want the tempo q=64. So i would write “Poco più mosso (q=64)” to indicate the desired tempo. So thats not possible, therefore i would need to write “Adagio q=64” or invent some other term (maybe “Piú veloce”, “Faster”)… it does not seem very elegant to me. It should be possible to override the type of Tempo marks or edit the lexicon. Oh, a small bug i discovered: Every time i change the metronome value, it seems the “Parenthesized” option in Properties panels gets unchecked.

So that’s all. Again, i like Dorico and would not return to Sibelius, but it would be great if this suggestions would be implemented in a future update. I think they wouldn’t help only me.


Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences!

In response to your 2nd point about gradual dynamics: you can input dynamics with the caret active to specify their duration, using Space and selecting whatever note duration you require in the Notes toolbox or by pressing e.g. 5 for eighth notes to advance the popover and extend the gradual dynamic. For a short video demonstrating this, see here. You can also lengthen/shorten dynamics after they’ve been input.

For your 4th point: if you’re changing the metronome mark value by reopening the popover, what that does is re-input the whole tempo mark, which will reset properties (because it’s a completely new item). Instead, you can change the metronome mark using the available property without resetting the others.

Also on your 4th point: Dorico does indeed interpret any tempo mark entry that includes “piu” as a relative tempo change. You can work around this by e.g. just entering the metronome mark, then adding whatever text you like in the Properties panel.

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Re your number 4: You can fool Dorico into creating a custom absolute tempo mark by typing più Opt-Space (Shift-Alt-Space on Windows) mosso q=88 (or whatever).

Thanks for the fast responses!
@Lillie_Harris i tried that input method, it’s a little bit clumsy: inserting “<” via popover, but seeing nothing till you advance the hairpin hitting space. Changing it after inserting seems easier.
@Lillie_Harris and @pianoleo: Great, both workarounds regarding relative tempo marks work! :+1: