Sonarworks SoundID Ref4 none responsive with Cubase 12

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I’ve been experiencing this on and off since 10.5 and not just with Soundworks Reference and ID but also Nugen Mastercheck.
Have not found a fix.

Plugins in Control Room unresponsive after closing and re-opening Cubase

I have an issue with plugins I use in the Control Room Insert slots. When I add a third party plugin (Sonarworks Reference 4 and NUGEN Audio Mastercheck) they work fine when first added, but when I close Cubase and re-open it they are completely unresponsive. They still show up blue as if active, but no controls work and the plugins are inactive. I have not found any way to remove or delete them. This doesn’t seem to be a problem with the one Steinberg plugin I tried: SuperVision. This…