Spectral Layers / Logic

First off, does anybody know how to “successfully” separate background vocals from Lead vocals? Using “Unmix Chorus” does not give great results. The resulting bkd and leads are almost half of each other. If you play them together you get all the vocals. But the bkd track alone has lots of missing gaps and low in volume parts, etc. Not very useful.

I’ve been using the stem separator in Logic 12 and gives much better results with instruments. I had a session last week where all the musicians sat in a circle and played at the same time time. I tried SL but it missed most off the piano, didn’t understand the guitars and banjo, and didn’t know what to make of the cello. However in Logic it separated all those instruments beautifully. I even got a better bass stem from the piano part. Initially I got a separate piano part but I could hear the bass. Running it again gave me a separate piano and separate bass part. So I’ve been transferring the tracks to Logic (I used Cubase 15 to record), separating them, and then bringing them back into Cubase to mix. But why should I have to do that when I have Spectral Layers Pro?

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Update: The Vocal Splitter in LALAL works great! They have a program specifically for splitting lead and background vocals. And it actually does that! So I split the tracks in Logic, bring them back into Cubase/Nuendo, then send the vocals to LALAL, split them, and bring them back into Cubase/Nuendo. A lot of work but the result sounds great.

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Hi @Ted_Perlman2 - The few times I’ve tried in the past getting lead and backing vox split out, has seen mixed results, none entirely that satisfactory. That may be down to me not understanding how to get the best from the app though.. So, sorry - am no help there.

Anyway, technology in this area of audio stem separation/editing ‘task’ has moved ahead in quality and speed, extremely quickly. Seems SLP has ‘fallen behind’ the competition by some margin of late - which to be fair, was never its primary focus.

Anyway, all to say I’m glad you eventually had decent results, if a little convoluted in getting there.!

Maybe this years SLP v13 release will have more/better answers.? Can only wait and see…

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SL should stick to its roots, imho - i. e. the very best spectral editor by far.
Stem seperation is a fast track, that Steinberg alone can not win.

Suggestion: Fix all the bugs, make every function/module behave exactly as one can be expected by its name (no odd sideeffects, pls). Implement more useful tools for spectral editing and streamline the gui even further. Et voila, the customer will be more than happy!

Don’t listen to the marketing guys, if they don’t have a profound background in math and science. They usually do more harm than good.

To mark: This is my opinion only!

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