Staff Line thickness set to 0 still shows staff lines

Hi friends!

I would like to hide all staff lines, not the staff itself (don’t ask why, I have my reasons :winking_face_with_tongue: )

Since Dorico won’t allow us to set staves to 0 staff lines, you have to have at least one ( —don’t ask why—I’m sure they have their reasons), I thought I could just set the staff line Thickness to 0.

So I followed the Dorico manual’s instructions (see below). Strangely and unfortunately, the staff lines still show, even in print view.

Does anyone know why? This looks like a bug to me. 0 staff thickness means 0 visibility in my book.

Changing the thickness of staff lines

You can change the thickness of staff lines project-wide.

Procedure

  1. Press Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-E to open Engraving Options.

  2. In the category list, click Staves.

  3. In the Staff Lines section, change the value for Staff line thickness.

  4. Click Apply, then Close.

Result

The thickness of staff lines project-wide is changed. Increasing the value for Staff line thickness makes staff lines thicker, decreasing the value makes staff lines thinner.

I don’t know if it’s related, but the PDF spec actually says that a line with 0 thickness should be rendered as the thinnest line a device can draw. This has been discussed elsewhere on the forum.

Here’s a way to get a 0-line staff in your project.

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And I can vouch for its flawless application, @Thomas_Gunther. Install (once), then have this available whenever:

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Hi,

I’m having trouble figuring out where to install the 0and1Line.doricolib file once I download it. I’m on a Mac. I go to applications and just see: Steinberg Library manager, but when I double click it, it opens this and I can’t seem to find a way to upload the template:

I’m sure I’m missing something. Can someone help me know where I should install this?

Thank you!

From Mac Finder, hold down the alt/opt key and from the Go menu select Library. (the user library is hidden by default) Then Inside the Library folder→Application Support→Steinberg→Dorico 6→DefaultLibraryAdditions

If the is no DefaultLibraryAdditions folder, create one. Put the doricolib file there. This is what it looks like on my swedish system.

Jesper

Okay thank you for those details! I did that (had to create the folder, but I’m sure it’s in the right place now). But I closed the app completely and then reopened and I don’t see to have the option to open that file:

I’m comparing this to what @judddanby showed a picture of where it’s under “sketch.” I’m using Dorico 5.

Does anyone have any ideas of how to open it?

Look in the instrument family Custom rather than Sketch.

I looked in all of the possible places and even did a search for (0and1) in all of the options, but nothing comes up (and I searched individually and nothing comes up either).

And just to confirm where I put it:

Other ideas?
FWIW- I did a search for doricolib to see where other files like this are located on my computer and none of them come up except the one that I’m trying to work with now. Are the library files are stored somewhere else in Dorico 5? (I had to create a new folder.)

Are you sure you put it in the user library and not the library that’s under Macintosh HD? As I wrote it’s hidden so alt/opt-click the Go menu from Mac Finder. The other place might work too, but would require a restart of the Mac I guess.

Jesper

My user library is under MacHD. Is there another user library?

No, that’s the right one. Not sure why it doesn’t work. Oh, so you have Dorico 5, not 6? Should work anyway.

Jesper

Yes, I have 5.

You have downloaded an older version of FredGUnn’s doricolib file. The version which was updated to work with Dorico 5 is in this post:

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Works on my Dorico 5 also.

Jesper

@johnkprice is right, here is a zipped version.

Jesper

0and1LineInstruments-D5.doricolib.zip (1.8 KB)

Okay, still not working. Here’s what I did:

  1. I deleted the old doricolib file.

  2. I unzipped and put the 0and1LineInstruments-D5.doricolib file in the correct place:

  3. I restarted my computer.

  4. I opened Dorico and did the following to no avail:

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I’m really flummoxed. This is an essential template that I need (I converted from Finale last year) for early level piano pedagogy music.

All your help is appreciated. Other ideas?

But it says doricolib 2, delete the 2 and space. You added the new file before you deleted the old one, so it added a 2 to the name. Or delete so that there is no such file, and add the downloaded one again.

Jesper

Yes, I saw that after I made the video, but I fixed it, restarted my computer again, and did the same process in that gif above. Nothing.

Here’s a screenshot so you can see it now:

It should appear under custom, not Sketch.

Jesper

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It wasn’t there (before I changed the 2) but it’s there now! Geez. I’m sorry to take so much of your time, but I sure appreciate the help.

Thank you for your patience!