But I know colleagues who only use an older Cubase version and have also upgraded the vstsound content. The content can no longer be used for them!
Anyone have similar experiences?
The cause of the problem seems to be that the old eLicenser license not only gets the addition âupgraded ⌠with Steinberg Licensingâ, but also the status âdeletedâ.
Assuming you have the new licence activated in the Steinberg Activation Manager then the latest version of Padshop (which IS SAM - aware) should load Apollo just fine in C11.
You wonât see it in Cubase 11 directly - and it will probably throw an error when C11 starts.
Iâm not sure why SB changed over from allowing older licences to remain active on the elicencer to deleting them but yes, itâs irritating.
Both Cubase versions use the same Padshop vst3 file and access the same vstsound folder. In Cubase 12, Padshop âseesâ the Apollo presets, but unfortunately not in Cubase 11.
2.1.0 is the latest version of PadshopâŚand you must have Apollo activated in SAM as C12 sees it ok.
I donât have any Padshop extensions to double check - although @MrSoundman had Zero Gravity that was upgraded (and deleted from his elicenser) - not sure what version of cubase though.
I have GA and Halion expansions that have been updated to SAM (and deleted from the elicenser) and both of these appear just fine in the latest version of GA/Halion despite running in C11/N11. They flag an error when starting C11/N11 but GA/Halion have their own preset browser so itâs not a problem in use.
There is obviously something odd going on with Padshop - as you should be able to use it in any DAW - and Iâve got a specific SAM licence for Padshop so it should be able to use SAM just fine (no dongle needed) - so why isnât it seeing your Apollo licence âŚ?
TBH I never use padshop but are you forced to use the Mediabay to load patches ? is there another âinbuiltâ browser ? - how do you load patches in 3rd party software ?
@Ben_at_Steinberg might be able to shed some light on why your C11 Padshop doesnât show a SAM licensed expansion ?
So, despite what I said earlier (!) - I donât think that Padshop 2 has been updated to use SAM as Iâve still got a Padshop licence on one of my elicensers and no voucher has been issued. (I was misremembering this as Retrologue!)
This means that if Steinberg are marking elicenser licenses as âdeletedâ (which they now seem to be doing) then these kind of problems are going to arise.
Not a problem for Halion/Retrologue/GA which are SAM-aware, but certainly a problem for Padshop.
The Padshop version 2.1.0 that I have installed actually supports SAM and should therefore also support Apollo.
If the Apollo presets are not displayed in the eLicenser-based Cubase versions, could it be because Padshop (and also Retrologue!) do not have their own Mediabay (mediabay3.db) but use the Cubase database? HSSE and GASE come with their own Mediabays!
Are you sure upgraded preset libraries for Retrologue (also SAM-upgradet) are visible in C11? I know colleagues who also report problems!
I think thatâs essentially the core of the problem.
I donât have any updated ones to check but I suspect that will be a problem too.
My Padshop/Retrologue expansions are part of my Absolute 6 collection and are still on the elicencer so all still working fine.
I tried Padshop in a different host and then it comes up with itâs own browser (not Mediabay) - so maybe it would see them then ? but canât see a way of forcing that âinternal browswerâ in C11.
Iâm really not sure why Steinberg are deleting licences from the elicenser when updating - this kind of issue was always bound to happen.
