Stave collapses onto next stave

In the First screenshot you’ll notice I have bar 4 selected. When I press alt-down-arrow to start moving those notes down we get the second screenshot after a couple of moves .


project attached.
MicroSonata1.2.dorico (867.8 KB)

  1. What is happening
  2. How do I fix it ?

many thanks

Tony

The music frame on page 1 is too full already (see b 17) . With those lowered notes, the dynamics line moves down as well and can’t get past the staff below. Maybe bump some bars to the next page or reduce the rastral size

Tony,

please don’t shout, bold or capital letters are against the forum etiquette.

I just happened to see this today.
It’s about fixing things… and contains some wise words: https://youtube.com/shorts/g7bEG1FnKsc?si=PM2zd81cYISvx8T5

Many apologies if I violated forum etiquete , quite unintentional.

It’s fine Tony, I apologise for my brusque reaction.

As Damian already said above, your page is overfull. When I open your file, page 1 is already at 110.9%:

Obviously the dynamic collisions are a mess already:

Dorico’s spacing algorithm tends to go a bit haywire when dealing with overfull pages/systems, so you really should try to get that percentage under 100% for a starting point unless you want to do a lot of manual tweaking. Simply putting a Frame Break on bar 19 will do it …

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… as will using rastral size #4 if that’s not too small:

Once under 100%, you can easily move those notes without Dorico making a sudden massive adjustment to the spacing.

It will be partly because I’ve imported from Finale.

I’d really like the import to be (optionally) nothing more than "the notes. " I.e. exactly the same way as you can get a hold of complex formatted text and put it through notepad++ in order to “start over.”

In Finale I spent far too long fighting its formatting, especially in terms of getting rid of collisions. Soon i hope ‘fighting the formatting’ will just be a bad dream…

In that case, on the MusicXML Import page of Preferences, turn off as many of the options shown there as you feel you can get away with. That will allow Dorico to treat the music more as if you had input it directly into Dorico yourself.

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Great idea, thank you