Hi @ehitonandakedone, here a workaround to obtain what you need. Start with a 2 lines accel. fanned beam, then create the same amount of notes of the same rhythmic length using an eight notes tuplet, the follow the screenshot (you can create directly step B with a new voice…, but for clearness I made it so):
Dorico file example:
Thank you for your detailed answer. However, I’m sorry, but I don’t know how to do the first “cut the second beat.” Sorry for asking such a basic question.
I’m currently trying out various things I might want to try in the future, and I’ve come across the next problem I want to overcome: adjusting the beam position. I think that ⑦ and ⑧ in Library > Engraving options > Steams are probably the solution. I was able to fill the gap between the rest symbol and the steam regardless of the vertical placement of the beam (by changing the value of ⑧). However, when I try to position the eighth rest in the attached image at the same height as the beam of the adjacent quintuplet, the rest moves up. I’ve tried various values for ⑦ and ⑧, but I can’t get it to work. Is there any way to fix this?
@ehitonandakedone
Not sure what you mean with “at the same height as the beam of the adjacent quintuplet”.
But you can move individual rests position from the Properties Panel (select the rest first…):
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Excerpt:
Can you describe what you need more precisely, and attach a Dorico file example?
Also may I suggest that you edit the title of this thread (clicking on the pencil icon near it), and write something like: “Stemlet beams [or beams over rests] and notehead size”? That would be helpful for other users searching the Forum.
Thank you for your feedback. What I want to do is something like the sheet music written by finale that I attached when I first posted here.
① I want to place a rest without a ledger line under the staff in a staff notation like the leftmost one in the attached image.
② I want to place a 16th rest between the bottom line and the third line from the bottom, regardless of the beam height, like the first beat of the 5/8 measure.
③ I want to place the eighth rest between the second lines since I made it the second line from the top, regardless of the height of the beam, like the second beat of the same measure.
④Finally, I want to make the heights of all beams in the same column (or all beams in the same measure) uniform and horizontal like a 5/8 measure.
So, did you try what I suggested above? It should all be doable (with some manual adjustments, as explained)
I’ve tried everything you suggested, but I just can’t figure out the transition from 🄰 to 🄱. I’m trying to get the same result using two voices, but it’s not working. In your example, 🄰 is played in the same voice, right? And yet, in 🄰, the notes on the second beat are shifted exactly to the first beat, and the rest is three beats long. I don’t understand this.
Select everything on beat 2 (notes and tuplet), and press Ctrl/Cmd+X to cut it and place it on the clipboard. This leaves notes on beat 1, and 3 beats of rest.
Now right click on the first note of beat 1 and do Paste Special > Paste Into New Downstem Voice.
Thanks to you, I have come this far. However, I cannot reach the state of 🄱. At 🄱, the noteheads completely overlap. I don’t know how to move each notehead of the downward notes so that they overlap with the upward notes in order to achieve this state…
The eight notes quintuplet should be 5:2e (five eight notes in the place of 2 eight notes).
(You made 5:4e, 5 in place of four)
I’m sorry and thank you!
Thank you very much !
