Strange issue with losing rest

Hi again all

I copied two measures from the staff below to the one above.

When I pasted them, the second measure was fine, but for some reason the first measure did not work as you can see. When I when to reset position after selecting the weird rest, notihng happened, When I told it to remove the whole rest, it showed no rest and then the note on beat 4. I tried copying and pasting the second measure, but that was also unsuccessful. Any ideas as to a fix other than giving up?

Also: how do you restore rests that have been accidentally removed?

Thanks for your assistance.

Ken

Looks like bar 73 in the upper staff is missing a beat or more unless the picture is cropped so that we can’t see the first beat. Or the whole rest in the upper staff is in a different voice.

Jesper

I tried it and I was able to get this:

However if I delete the note on beat 1 of 73 it goes back to an empty space.

But, thanks this is better!

Could you share the file? Or turn on Voice colors under View->Note and rest colors and make a new picture. On the last beat of 73, perhaps the Starts Voice property is set. Or the Ends Voice in the last note before.

Jesper

I will try, but now I need to leave.

Thanks and will do that later!

Ken

but

I then deleted the first eighth note now it works.

I guess in general suppose if you have found that the rests are omitted as in the first pic I sent, how do you restore them.

I read this but I don’t think I really get it…

Thanks

Ken

You have to find the last note or rest before the rests disappears and untick Ends Voice in the properties panel. Or the first note after and untick Starts Voice. Or both.

Jesper

You can pm me the file if you can’t get it to work.

Ok, I will work on that.

Thanks for your excellent help once again.

Ken

One way to remove all hidden rests. Set this under Dorico->Preferences->Note Input and Editing.

Then you can select all, Edit->filter for notes in the score and untick the Ends and Starts voice properties on the whole score at once.

(I think you can also do this without changing the setting in preferences. Once you filter to Notes and Chords, you’ll see the Starts Voice and Ends Voice properties.)

Ah, yes, you’re right @asherber

Jesper

@jesele and @asherber - there are rare situations where someone might have placed an ends voice on a rest. In this case the filter>notes and chords will not detect it.
(Just saying)

Thanks, @Janus – yes, very rare, but certainly possible.