Strange Key sig stuff

Page 7, first system. What is going on with that cautionary ‘F’ key signature. I’m coming from flute

Medley 1 - Alto Sax & Flute.pdf

to alto… and the prior key is F. Still…

Ty

Medley 1 - Alto Sax & Flute.pdf (131.1 KB)

Can you upload your project file, or a cut down version that demonstrates the issue?

Medley 1 Issue.dorico (1.8 MB)

Ty

See Sax Part

It looks like the instrument change is confusing Dorico. You’re getting the alto sax key sig at bar 4, even though the sax doesn’t start playing until bar 12, because you have Layout Options > Players > Instrument Changes > Instrument transition position set to “After last note in old instrument”. But the cautionary somehow is picking up the old flute key signature. I’m not sure why the second ending is also showing the flute key sig.

You might be happier changing Notation Options > Repeats > Clefs and key signature in repeat structures to “Do not track”, which will get rid of the cautionaries altogether (in all layouts). If you really want those cautionaries, you might have to resort to one of the older workarounds.

Ty. Indeed, strange,

This is a lot of help.

Older workaround? Say more?

Thanks

Btw. I’m ok with New sig at bar 4. But once that’s established I’m not understaning why there are cautianary ones at first and second endings

Thanks again

Test 2.dorico (1.6 MB)

Seems to be a bug.

I created a new score, different template, same thing. The cautionary seems to to be the the concert key? Clearly a bug?

In this case, even worse, as the the Ab key signature on second ending is wrong (The notes are A naturals, not Ab’s

Test 5 Dorico Template.dorico (3.2 MB)

I thought perhaps my template?

I tried on a dorico template, same issue.

Hi @Avremi_Gourarie, in addition to the suggestions and observations by @asherber, it seems like something unexpected is indeed going on with the repeats/key signatures. I added some notes to the flute to make the instrument change happen in bar 12, and I think the D key signature (cautionary) that is being automatically generated in the repeats should really not be there. Also on the 2nd repeat the F sounds correctly as I wrote it in the flute staff, despite the F# in the key signature(!).

(I remember that some similar issue with the cautionary generated key signature have already been discussed, but I cannot remember when or where):

Playback:

Dorico file example:
Medley 1 Issue-V2.dorico (1.8 MB)

@Christian_R ty for this. The scariest part is the flute sounds indeed does sound correct. What will a live player do?

@asherber Question. What’s the downside to choosing ‘do not track’? (this semns to tbe the obvious solution

ty

The only downside is that you don’t get cautionary and restorative clefs and key sigs.

Ty both for your help. Hopefully the team will look into this

This appears to have been fixed in the just-released 6.2.30. The original file now displays as expected.

Indeed. Now fixed in the new version. Ty all