[Suggestion]: Better automatic collision avoidance

Hi everyone!

I already talked about the problem of the missing “avoid collision” checkbox for most objects in this thread: (which sadly never got a reply)

While this would enable manually solving most of Doricos spacing problems (which I don’t think will be ever avoidable, without an AI at work), I still think, Dorico could do a better job by itself, especially at rehearsal marks.

In combination with cues this happens:
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The only way to fix this >fast< is to move the cue to the right in Engrave mode like this:
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Doing it manually would need you, to align the staves by yourself, which is not recommended and time consuming.

The same think happens to system text like this:
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Of course, checking avoid collision solves this problem very fast, but this becomes annoying quiet fast, as it seems unnecessary easy.

Solution: (?)
Give Dorico the possibility, to check for horizontal space within a customizable area, as most of the time, there is plenty! :slight_smile:
This would maybe also solve some of the massive object stacking for condensing, I mentioned in the other thread. But I can see, why this would be much more complex to solve.

I would love to see this, as in my opinion, this is the time-killer No. 1 when preparing parts. (and sometimes scores)

Thank you!

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At the moment, Dorico never resolves collisions by moving items horizontally, only vertically. I agree that in some situations it would be preferable for Dorico to be able to move an item a little way rightwards to avoid vertical movement, and this is something we plan to look into at some point in the future.

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Hi there! As this for sure won’t be tackled anytime soon, I thought I suggest another idea for the time being, which I am using at the moment to be faster and which might be a quick “fix” for Dorico itself? :slight_smile:

Most of the time, it’s still the cue-labels which get into the way of everything, but instead of moving them to the right, I now mostly prefer just toggling them below the staff. (it they weren’t already placed there, because of a downstem-voice)

Two things would come handy here:

  1. And old and known “issue” of Dorico: When enabling the “Placement” option, above will always be the default, even if the text is already placed there.
    I understand, that someone might like to “lock” the placement of a text, but I guess, that most of the people check that option to change something, so wouldn’t it be much more useful to toggle the option, the moment a user activates it?

  2. An (optional) automatic horizontal collision check by dorico to decide, if a text should be placed below. I imagine not beeing the only one to use rehearsel marks and cues (which mostly appear at a rehearsal mark), so this should safe a lot of tme for many people, or am I doing something very unusual here?

Thank you very much for your efforts! I really enjoy the many little fixes introduced with each update!