Supervision Spectrum: Adjust freq range?

Im updating the views (minimizing actually) and would like to have a focused spectrum curve showing the MS overlay but with 0-200hz only?
Yeah Ive heard all the rave about dont mono sub etc…but I do and if you study long enough, do your own research you will work out what you think is right…in my case, this window is a super quick way to check that but only needs to be a thumbnail size…its one of the only times I find that a visual is really helpful (as its a feel vs sound thing)
Appreciate any help :slight_smile:

Is it that hard? bump

yes it is very hard

why, oh why?

I rephrase…

Is it asking too much? ie for a spectrum analyzer to have windowed values of amplitude AND freq?

imo yes - it is asking too much. oh well now you edited your post :slight_smile: anyways, you have the tools you need, they do not look the way you want. there is 2 ways about it. 1 is to add a feature request for what you want and 2 is find a different tool that does it they way you want it … or maybe 3 make it yourself

I get you…but if no one else has asked then its not worth my time.
I am using PRISM as a stand in as I thought I might have missed something…thinking it was something incredibly basic…originally I used SPAN

Blame Dan Worrall maybe

Has been incredibly useful for quick look at client work

blame who? for what? You are throwing around statements like we talked before. Just focus your post on what you actually are trying to achieve, it makes for a more constructive process. I get what you want. You want to focus on a certain freq. Guess what!? I do also have specific needs in my workflow. Just ask your question - is it possible to this? no? then I would like that feature added. there is no need to tell everyone that you are great because you mono your sub and others do not study enough if they dont.

Glen…check some of the previous posts…I get answers telling me off from newbs…thats the context…so there was no showing off etc: I just done want the lame info. For those sorts of replies, I would rather there was just reasonable meaningful information…(Im not referring to you in this case as you are a seasoned user and I have always respected your info)

So I pre empted…that is all

You answered the question: NO it is not possible to do what Im asking.

I found that strange for a basic function that is available in the mentioned SAs
I said Dan Worrall because I had (wrongly) assumed him being known in this forum, I really appreciate his contribution to the community…Dan Worrall line was humour.

Ive been mixing for 35 years…but appreciate every day has something new to learn…always.

You are right though…its too hard…Ill just keep to prism although it would have been nice to integrate it all into SV.
If no one else has noticed…it really doesnt matter.

Cheers

My 2 cents: Supervision is a powerful tool for “ballpark monitoring” and not so much designed to cover all sorts of details and aspects. Look at Span and Prism (excellent free plugins BTW): both come with a different set of strong suits despite their similarities. If you want to keep an eye on your MS distribution in the low end- there you go.

Again, I think that Supervision aims at a more general overview and is not designed to look into details. That’s where other plugins shine. However, nothing wrong with your feature request. I just don’t think it’s a question of

IMO, it’s more a question of “Is Supervision supposed to cover that?”

Hi @Reco29

Its hard for a device to satisfy all things for sure but scaling axis for any sort of graph is basic…so Im not asking it do anything special. In fact I originally asked for MS overlay and that was implemented…I think it was a conversation with @Martin.Jirsak and when explained, he confirmed its validity…GREAT! (of course Im sure others did too)

But

I didnt realise the graphing wouldnt have the scaling else I would have mentioned that.
You know what I mean…with those basics, it WOULD cover practically most needs as the user can defined the further detailed implementation. Maybe most arent interested but when I saw Dan Worrall use the overlay, that was what triggered the feature request.

Aside from this…it would be great if the spectrogram just had the extra features mentioned here and I wouldnt actually need anything else…but we are all different

Anyway :slight_smile:

I know and indeed, Supervision is quite basic at times. I agree, scaling is not exactly a special feature. I was pointing out that Supervision is good at giving you a general idea but not good at looking into details. That’s where and why I use other plugins. If Supervision could cover all aspects, cool :+1: I just don’t think it’s meant to do this, but this is just my personal understanding.
Besides, there’s a reson why you prefer Prism over Span for some tasks, right? There are so many ways of visual representation - difficult to satisfy all needs. Nonetheless, I am with you - scaling is not one of these special features.

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@Reco29 I think we change a lot on the journey…I am on minimalist rampage atm and I was laughing looking at Yoad Nevo amount of metering plugins…so much eye candy I find it distracting…what is actual value?
TBH, if the overlay could focus <200hz, this is more than enough visual for me. The loudness meters in Cubase is very close if not exact with other meters…so minimal is pretty good..love to see your setup for this aspect of cubase

BTW Im only using Prism now as an extra…it doesnt support multi channel without complex routing with a number of instance

Well, I actually use different plugins for specialized purposes. If I want to take a closer look at MS in the low end I am still fond of Span.
Over the past months, I’ve grown more and more fond of ADAPTR MetricAB which provides not only a solid overview on most basic aspects but also allows to zoom in and to compare with reference tracks. I dig its simplicity and that it’s streamlined to manage just basic tasks. Besides, it’s latency friendly…:wink:
Nonetheless, as stated above, I also use a variety of specialized plugins if needed so there’s no one plugin fits all kind of situation here.

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Gotcha

I think metric AB is great too..although I had already purchase REFERENCE which is quite similar.

Im so used to VU from old school stuff so Thats the main thing….but the other meters just flag basic stuff. I like using the Listen buss now thats all setup for troubleshooting globally in 1 place

If it had some scripting, I would love to have a masking/channel comparison with 2 easily selectable sources for really fast checking in the same global space (same as the channel eq but that takes the current channel as 1 source)…in Reaper you can just take 2 selected tracks as arguments…but Im not going there…yet

So yeah…a global general ref for quick visual…supervision is nearly there

I like that in the spectogram, you can click on the waveform and it jumps the cursor there in the project

I’m with you, I really like the concept of SuperVision - but - does it do enough to replace other plugins? Which is part of the reason to have factory plugins - to give people competitive value against other DAWs by offering what people normally have to spend on 3rd party plugins.

I think your idea is good in being able to zoom in on frequencies, and not only that, but adjust the settings on the fly - ie, a pop-out control panel.

Even some of the other modules like Spectrum could have zoom adaptable bands.

I actually wanted to to take SuperVision further and FR’d channel/frequency range solo’ing:

SuperVision frequency and channel solo/listen utilities - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

as well as multi-channel support via sidechain.

SuperVision: Add multi-channel analysis support for certain modules - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

SPAN for example, has both notchpass solo/listen, and multi-channel spectrum support via additional SPAN satellites

I had a good read…
Using spectrogram a lot…I can see the value in the features so its a +1 for me
BUT
Its doubled in using spectral layers as they are very deep asks, even if they are reasonable. I just need overview for my master but if I use the listen buss idea ie not having stuff on each channel but being able to hit 1 button and send it to a very detailed range of graphs and meters as a global tool is much more convenient and really just old school console operation moved forward a couple of decades

My last module which isnt in here is MTM Reference which as enough of that ie soloing of bands etc

We definitely could use a much simpler comparison, not even side chain, where you simply SELECT 2 channels and they are arguments for the global area (with a command to tell Cubase the actual use of the selection)

I forgot about this thread as well, which you contributed in

Some “minor” improvements to SuperVision - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

I think the hardest thing on the forum is measuring response…some peeps are happy to humour each other, others just want the facts and get frustrated when you try and give context so you dont get newbs “trying to help” because they dont actually understand what you are talking about…filling the thread with noise but then experienced users look at it and think you are somehow boasting (never had it happen before but did on this thread; no dis to Glen) Supervision Spectrum: Adjust freq range? - #7 by glennloopez

Some of what he said was true and relevant, I took that on and now try to include both aspects…ie get to the point but include wider reference too

Respecting that our perspective may not = the intent.

Exposing workflow so there is a deeper understanding too…we spend a lot of time focused in our own little world, all part of the nature of artistic output.

That makes it hard to petition for features because even in the most experienced users, and there are a lot on the forum, we can easily outgrow what use to be fine or become silted in our experience…I use a couple of other DAWs, started on PT, have done a lot of time eg On Ableton, coding hardware for it (for OEM) and currently getting into Reaper so taking those external experiences can be frustrating because Cubase only users tend to get offended…which I saw also happened on one of your threads

So the point of this post is to say thank you to those who have the grace to accept others may have a different perspective, different interactive personalities and empower each other to move forward…including the improvement of Cubase.

Glenn was right about two things, though: First: It is currently not possible to narrow down the frequency range. Second, you should tag the topic as a feature request.

No disrespect was intended…i changed my approach to understand that others might not be so conversational…

If others didn’t notice it missing, I doubt my single voice is worth mentioning it tbh