One of the ways in which I’m teaching myself is by comparing scores (Dorico Flows).
Even on a fast machine (v. sig), I get the beachball for several seconds when giving input focus to an alternative score… and then switching back - e.g. when I have copied notes etc.
Is there a faster/bespoke/better practice way to work with two Dorico files open simultaneously, please?
For now, a pretty good method is to import the flows from document #2 into document #1. From there you could even open up two different tabs and set a vertical split (this is under the window menu) so that you can be looking at both scores at once
I’m not quite sure I understand. If you’re importing flows by going to File>Import>Flows, then you can import a flow (or flows) into an already existing document. It won’t replace any of the current flows or be imported into a current flow, but will be imported as an entirely new flow in your document.
From there, I don’t know of any way to have it automatically open the newly imported flow into a separate tab, but opening a new tab manually and scrolling over to the new flow is fairly trivial.
Is this at all helpful, or am I just not understanding?
Sorry if I wasn’t clear. And, probably being too ambitious. Certainly I can have two Flows in the one project - but not easily separate them with TABs. Half the battle; thanks!
Yes - when I import the existing file/flow, it is added to any flows which I already have in the new document: so the new document has both.
Because it doesn’t seem possible to put different flows in different tabs, and because each tab has both flows, although I can import the material which I wish to copy from, I can’t separate it in any given document/project.
As a workaround, I’ve just created duplicate staves and am copying from there into new, blank, ones.
Some way to have two separate flows (in this case: the ‘old/existing’ flow from which I want to copy + the new blank one to which I want to paste) in one document - but in separate tabs - would be ideal.
Open the previous project you want to add to the current one you are working on.
Do a File, Export, Flows and click OK.
(You can now close this project if you wish).
Now open or switch to the current project.
Do a File,Import, Flows and select the exported flow and click OK
In Setup Mode, make sure the Flows panel is showing (cmd-8 or control-8)
Add a new Tab (plus sign in upper right side of Music Area window)
[EDIT - The next 2 steps should be ignored and replaced as shown after “CORRECTION”]
In the bottom panel, click on the newly added flow, and select the Layout you wish to see.
If you need to add a 2nd Tab window, add another tab and click on the first flow and select the Layout you wish to see.
CORRECTION:
Select a Layout (presumably from the newly added flow).
If you need to add another Tab window, add another tab and select the Layout you wish to see (presumably from the other flow).
Now you can switch between the two tabs seamlessly.
And, doing a Vertical Split (Window Menu) is quite convenient for this type of work.
(Credit given to snakeeyes!!!)
Thanks, musicmaven - I now have a workaround since it’s still not behaving as I feel pretty sure it can.
So I wouldn’t want to try your patience (and thanks too, snakeeyes!!!).
But if you didn’t mind kindly taking another quick look at your steps, maybe you’d see why I don’t get the same result as you do at 8 and 9… I still get both flows in each tab.
I see that 8 & 9 need to be amended slightly. (Sorry).
For #8:
You don’t need to select the Flow first. You should be able to Add a Tab and select any layout for any of the flows using the scrolling list (in this case a layout from the newly added flow).
For #9:
If you need to add a 2nd Tab window, add another tab and select the Layout you wish to see (presumably from the first flow, the one you are adding content to).
I should mention that when I imported the flow, I elected to not merge instruments with existing instruments. And I notice that Dorico lists the instruments (layouts) in order, showing instruments from flow 1, then instruments from flow 2 (the imported flow). Also note that you may see duplicate instrument names, so you will need to select, for example, the duplicate name later in the list if you want content from the 2nd imported flow.
SIMPLE EXPLANATION FOLLOWS…
And - keeping things simple - you can feel free to select any layout you wish (even a “wrong one”) in a newly created tab because it is so easy to use the drop down at any point to change the view of a tab or a window. The bottom line is this: all content from all flows are available to chose from in any window - tab or otherwise!
The only thing I can think of is that you have all instruments/layouts showing for both flows. You can select which instruments & layouts to use in Setup Mode as shown in these attachments. I didn’t mention this part of it because my attempt didn’t require it. (Did you allow merging perhaps when you imported the flow?)
By the way even though you are seeing both flows in both windows, operationally, it should work fine. It’s probably less confusing to not see both flows, however, so this should fix that aspect of it.
Let me know if it works!
Other info - this is pretty cool! The 3 panels in Setup that are on the right, left, and bottom are always linked. For instance, if you click on a layout in the right panel, you will see which flows contain that instrument (bottom panel), and which players (instruments) are used in that layout (left panel). Or, clicking on a Flow in the bottom panel will likewise show you which players are in that flow (left panel), and also which layouts are contained in the Flow (right panel). And, if you click on a player (instrument) in the left panel, you will also see which Flows that player uses (bottom panel), as well as which layout(s) that player is in. So you always have a view of what is going on with all the connections and any change you make in any area (players, flows, or layouts) will update the other 2 areas because they are linked! And you start all this editing or investigating by simply clicking either a Flow, Player, or Layout. And all of this including and excluding players and layouts per flow is the magic behind having multiple movements or sections of music that utilizes differing instrumentation. It is pretty slick!
The key is indeed which instruments (and layouts) are visible in any given flow - as your screen grabs indicate (thank you).
No, I didn’t merge. I can see how that would complicate things still further.
It’s also still a little confusing because what appears - no matter what I do - is ‘Full Score’ for the Import. I suspect I can fix that at export time.
And by more judicious naming of Flows and Instruments so as to make it plain which file they originally belonged to.
As you say, even though I can still see both Flows in both windows, I can get around my original difficulty - the latency borne of having to switch entire project files.
Your help appreciated
Agreed. Typical of the thoroughly thought-out way Dorico does things - with actual scoring foremost .
…Other info - this is pretty cool!… The 3 panels in Setup that are on the right, left, and bottom are always linked.