Template changing in differnt layouts !?

Surely this must be something simple I’m overlooking. It has never come up before. I have a score with several instruments. I have a single template used for all the non-score parts. I don’t think I have any overrides. But strangely the placement of text objects on the first page changes – it different between different parts supposedly using the same template. I have reduced this score down to practically nothing, but the problem persists.

Here is part 2a, which appears as I intended:

And here is part 2. Notice the file# and date have been moved to a new position.

Any ideas? Here is the *.dorico file.

Test Templete.dorico (646.0 KB)

Hi @cparmerlee, for some reason you happen to have two different Default Part page templates (they have the same name but have different settings):

[Edit: but this is not the reason for your issue. See the resolutive suggestion by @DanielMuzMurray here below ]

My first thought was that it might be to do with your page margins (which are also different in each layout).

Good catch, @DanielMuzMurray.

I confirm: setting the page margin to be the same in both layouts, makes the frames/tokens positioning identical again:

Thanks. I created the “a” parts by duplicating an existing player. I would have thought that would duplicate the page margins, but I guess not.

Duplicating players doesn’t duplicate layouts.

If you create a new layout (as would be done if there is a new player) then it will use your default user settings.

Makes sense. It has just never come up for me before. I’ll have to remember that one.

I understand that layouts can be independent of players – I use that factor all the time. So I understand why the designers would want to build the new layout with defaults.

OTOH, in probably 90% of the layouts, there is one player per one layout by the same name. There is logic that, in those cases, it makes more sense to duplicate the player and layout together, or at least to give the user the option.

Taking it one step further, I have cases where I have one player with two different layouts (e.g. trombone in B.C. concert, and another layout for the British equivalent of that same player, T.C. Bb). That’s another example where, if there is only one player involved, and I am duplicating that player, it would make sense to duplicate BOTH of those layouts.)

Adding to the useful responses above: when part layouts have been created with the default Layout Options (i.e. not the ones of the current project) you can take a layout you’re happy with and propagate all its Layout Options to (some of) the others, by using the Propagate Part Formatting feature in Setup Mode: