The ARA 2 implementation in Cubase 15 still fails :(

Using Melodyne Editor 5.4 (last) with Cubase, in a project where I need 2 bars befor start (so it starts à -1), the ARA 2 implementation in Cubase 15 still fails to compensate for the ‘Display Bar Offset’. My bar n in Cubase appears as n+1 in Melodyne.
This forces users to choose between a clean project start or a functional Melodyne workflow, which is unacceptable for a professional DAW in 2026.
I appreciate Cubase but this poor ARA problems have been here from such a long time….

Hey, @csurieux
Isn’t that a Melodyne issue?

Have you reached out to Celemony Support about this?
I think Steinberg and Celemony work well together and will definitely have a solution for a future Melodyne update.

I use Melodyne Studio 5.4.2.006 ARA and I’m also hoping for timeline improvements.

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Well, I just discovered that Celemony has no more any forum for it’s products :frowning:
But Yes I could try to contact their support.
But it is typically a ‘shared responsability’ where I could spent years with people saying ask the other side.
And I read here many threads complaining about the low level of ARA implementation in Cubase.

From the other side… :slight_smile:
Yeah, I get that.

I’ve written to Celemony Support before about something else and was really surprised at how quickly and helpfully they responded to my inquiry.
I hope that ARA and third-party plugins will quickly agree on a standard (like VST3) among the ARAs :slight_smile:

I am curious if the latest version of ARA2(you can find it on github with all changes/updates) fixes your issues. If I remember correctly, it was released right about the time Cubase 15 was released. I know Cubase is not using the latest version because its missing some feature that come along with Tonalic. Maybe the latest version of ARA2 fixes your issues?

I used Melodyne a lot myself, but I am not fully understanding what your saying and maybe I experience it, but just kind of work around it.

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The problem I encouter is that an event starting on bar n in Cubase starts in Melodyne on bar n+1.

Thanks for info.

Thank you for this very helpful tip

I contacted Celemony and they answered that Melodyne’s ARA do not manage offset in Cubase project.

:frowning:

That’s BAD

:frowning:

Ok. Wondering what’s it like for example in Fender StudioPro, Reaper, ProTools, Cakewalk, Logic, MixCraft, Luna, etc, etc…?

Is Cubendo the only ‘bad boy’ here.?

Is it possible you can show a screengrab or two please.? With a before/after using ‘Display Bar Offset’ function.? Again, curious how other DAW’s (and their ARA support) cope with similar…

Just try it : create a new project with 2 bars offset and start at -1, the add an audio track and attach melodyne extension an look at the cursors in cubase and melodyne. 3 minutes.

From what I understand in their answer, cubase is not the ‘bad boy’ as other daws, even The Fender studio, do not offer this option of project offset. But I don’t know fender Studio or others.

This seems to imply that ARA2 is implemented in Cubase 10 and up. Maybe that was during maintenance updates, but it doesn’t seem as though a trip to Github is necessary

https://download.steinberg.net/downloads_software/SpectraLayers_7/help/_ara2_plugin.html

I have Spectralayer 12, so ARA2 should be installed.

And Celemony told they don’t manage offset.