Fortunately, that’s no longer the case. You had to surrender Cubase when crossgrading from an eLicenser-based license. Since the introduction of the new licensing system, you can keep the Cubase license and get an additional one for Nuendo. However, as far as I can tell, the Cubase license is internally marked as “crossgraded” so that you can’t use it for another crossgrade.
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Oh.! Thank you @Martin90 for that - very welcome to hear; happy to stand corrected… 
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I thought that is what the “Pro” in Cubase Pro meant. Nuendo isn’t just a video product. It is an uber DAW. I don’t need Cubase for any reason when I have Nuendo. WaveLab, Spectral Layers, Dorico, Halion, Groove Agent, and Backbone can’t say that.
Nuage was the main reason I was originally considering Nuendo. Buying our first professional console is an important decision for us. We still have Cubase on two Windows stations, but that ship has sailed. Unless we are bringing in outside work that for some odd reason forces us to develop on Windows, we are a Mac shop now.
I was just worried that these spectacular Nuendo deals might be some sort of damage control on Steinberg’s part. It Nuendo has lost a lung over this, turning it into a Premium version of Cubase might be their best move.
Yamaha statement: NUAGE and Apple silicon
The reliability and ‘mission critical’ operating standards expected by Yamaha professional users are second to none, which the company prides itself on not only satisfying, but often exceeding. However, the current status of the electronics manufacturing industry means that redeveloping the NUAGE post-production system to deliver the required level of operational support for Apple silicon will not be feasible.
Therefore, while Yamaha will aim to support the ongoing integration of Intel®-based computers into the NUAGE ecosystem, it is not possible to redefine NUAGE for use with the Apple silicon architecture.
Yamaha will make every effort to ensure Intel®-based NUAGE systems continue to function with the reliability and effectiveness which their users have come to expect. The company will also continue to take all user feedback into account when making future product decisions.
That is really sad, for such a product to be made obsolete in that way.
The product itself is not obsolete, Apple just decided as part of their planned obsolescence strategy to make their product incompatible with it.
Are we talking about the Apple M processor series?
I was about to do the cross grade, but I was just told by Adam in Steinberg support that the Cubase Pro 12 or 13 license is not upgradeable to Cubase 13 or 14 after the Nuendo cross grade. I don’t want to lose Cubase. I have Cubase Pro 12, and I’m waiting for 14.
Why? Is there something in there you don’t get in Nuendo?
Did you contact Steinberg support in the US?
Yes, I contacted US support through chat.
Less stuff, unknowns, different update cycle. I figured for $224, I could then alternate versions. Cubase 14, then Nuendo 15, Cubase 16.
That’s strange because last year Ed Doll wrote in the German forum that the license remains updatable after the crossgrade but can’t be used for a crossgrade again:
Well maybe Adam in US Support is wrong??? I questioned him and he said he was 100% positive he was correct. If he is wrong, it is costing Steinberg sales.
The Cubase license CAN be updated, but allows only once for a Nuendo upgrade.
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Hi Timo,
Did you chat with US Support. Do you have name of support person? And you mean allows only once for Nuendo cross grade, not upgrade.
EDIT : Ha, I didn’t notice that you are the Boss… thanks
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All good 
Will get this sorted internally. Those licensing questions are sometimes not so easy.
Also, the terms “update”, “upgrade” and “crossgrade” are sometimes mixed up.
In our terminology, “update” refers to a new version of the same product (e.g. Nuendo 11, Nuendo 12, Nuendo 13 etc.).
“Upgrade” means getting a higher version of the same product line (e.g. Cubase Elements → Cubase Artist, WaveLab Elements → WaveLab Pro).
“Crossgrade” means there is a sales advantage to get a different product (in the past this was equal to “replacing” the previous product, but this is now changed for Cubase/Nuendo).
I hope this shed some light on this topic in general.
Many thanks,
Timo
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And as long as I have the dongle plugged in, the ‘crossgrade status’ of the licence still allows me to run my older editions of Cubase - C5, 6, 7 etc…?
Need piece of mind I can still run over to a clients studio, when he needs me, where I did a ton of work on a machine that’s frozen in time (WinXP). Don’t ask - to get the work, we did a deal and I installed my copy of C5 and used my dongle back and forth with the home system. It was just how it worked out, from mid 2000’s - and it was still working perfectly fine, earning good money, in 2019.!
I am surprised that users of Cubase are still debating upgrading to Nuendo at a price that’s unbelievable… Nuendo is Cubase on Steroids. If you minus postproduction tools even then the upmix and down mix to and from 7.1, Atmos rerender (to Ambisonics with some tricks) 5.1’ Stereo, Binaural, feature, and automatically Loudness Normalise at export is itself worth it.
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I did! It’s a no brainer for me. Even though I don’t need those extras, why not have them. I hope more people get on board it would be nice to have more users from Cubase to nuendo.
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Count me in I also grabbed it. The price for the crossgrade from Cubase 13 Pro is really a bargain.
But you shouldn’t forget that an upgrade costs twice as much as Cubase. But ok, one league up costs more.