The file as attached has a hidden time signature. If I unhide the time signature (its unnecessary; I’m already in 4/4) and delete the time signature the flag appears again ! and it only disappears if I add a new unhidden but unnecessary time signature
A signpost shows you something that is in the document data, but invisible on the page, so even if you couldn’t work out how to remove it, it won’t affect the printed result (or PDF etc). You could always hide Time Sig signposts in the View menu, if you couldn’t bear to see them.
But as Janus implies: Time signatures and barlines are the same thing in Dorico. Select a barline, and you’ll see the “Time Signature” section in the Properties panel. If you add a “real” single barline, then Dorico marks it with a time sig Signpost.
I can’t bear to see them and do hide them but feeling guilty that I’m hiding something I should be seeing. Now we have proofreading I will still discover if my bars are the wrong length.
I fear you guys are (with the best will in the world) hiding what amounts to a very minor bug. If there isn’t anything to complain about it shouldn’t be complaining should it? [Deleting bar lines and reinstating them has the smell of the workaround!!].
(None of this was imported from XML)
As always, thank you for the replies . This is a great forum.
If these were not imported, then you must have created a manual barline. So deleting that addition can hardly be described as a workaround!
(Try it… Select a normal barline, then shift-B | - the barline will look the same, but a signpost will appear… Importantly, if you now make a proper time signature change in bars before your ‘manual’ barline, the barline will prevent that change from propagating to bars after the manual barline)
that will be true. After 18 months of Dorico I’ve just about got to the point where I can change time signatures (with and without insert mode) and get a predictable result.
I hadn’t realised before that a “manual barline” was a special permanent artefact in the data. I thought it was a kind of placeholder waiting for me to insert a time signature. So I’m glad I asked the question.
Freedom to make rhythmical alterations is one Dorico’s strongest points; but takes months to learn.
Dorico has implicit and explicit barlines. Implicit barlines are a result of using a time signature and are generated automatically by the program. Explicit barlines are input by the user and override any implicit barlines. What throws users off is that an explicit barline can be the same barline style as an implicit barline. As there’s no way for the user to know that visually, as they appear the same, Dorico throws up that signpost to let you know that there’s an explicit barline there.
and it only disappears if I add a new unhidden but unnecessary time signature
If there isn’t anything to complain about it shouldn’t be complaining should it? [Deleting bar lines and reinstating them has the smell of the workaround!!].