# Token for names of flow?

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**Category:** Dorico\
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**Created:** [January 16, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356 "2024-01-16T15:33:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![leejackson](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/leejackson/32/220468_2.png) [@leejackson](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/leejackson)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356/1 "2024-01-16T15:33:33Z")

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I did a search for this and only found one topic from 5 years ago with no real replies to it. I’m hoping there’s a better reply available now.

Is there a token available that lets one access the names of the flows entered in the boxes at the bottom of the Setup page? I tried flow1title, flow2title, etc., but they gave me the data from the title fields of the project info for the corresponding flow. I tried flow1name, flow2name, etc., and they gave me nothing. What is available, Steinberg?

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**Author:** ![lafin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/lafin/32/156820_2.png) [@lafin](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/lafin)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356/2 "2024-01-16T15:50:24Z")

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See this list that includes {@flowTitle@}.

> **[dorico\_5\_tokens\_230524.pdf](https://steinberg.help/dorico/v5/extra/dorico_5_tokens_230524.pdf)**
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**Author:** ![Lillie\_Harris](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/lillie_harris/32/363348_2.png) [@Lillie\_Harris](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Lillie_Harris)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356/3 "2024-01-16T16:08:47Z")

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As far as I’m aware, it’s not possible to refer to flow names using tokens, only flow titles.

Can you say a bit more about your use-case, i.e. why you’d like to use them rather than titles?

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**Author:** ![lafin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/lafin/32/156820_2.png) [@lafin](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/lafin)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356/4 "2024-01-16T16:23:36Z")

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Maybe I’m misunderstanding. When my first page template uses flowTitle, if I change the flow “name” in the lower panel in settings, it changes the title in the project info and on the first flow page.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Johnson](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/mark_johnson/32/143124_2.png) [@Mark\_Johnson](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Mark_Johnson)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356/5 "2024-01-16T16:35:09Z")

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Yes, because they are linked initially. But if you change the title in Project Info, the link is broken.

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**Author:** ![Lillie\_Harris](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/lillie_harris/32/363348_2.png) [@Lillie\_Harris](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Lillie_Harris)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356/6 "2024-01-16T16:55:37Z")

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Here’s some more information about flow names vs titles:

> **[Flow names and flow titles](https://steinberg.help/dorico_pro/v5/en/dorico/topics/setup_mode/setup_mode_flows_names_titles_c.html)**
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> Whenever you add a flow to a project, the default name of a flow is Flow plus an incremental number. In Dorico Pro, flows have both a flow name and a flow title, which are the same by default but can be different if, for example, you want to organize...

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**Author:** ![leejackson](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/leejackson/32/220468_2.png) [@leejackson](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/leejackson)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356/7 "2024-01-16T17:01:33Z")

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> [@Lillie\_Harris](#):
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> Can you say a bit more about your use-case, i.e. why you’d like to use them rather than titles?

I’m not sure if I’m even doing it right, so maybe you can guide me. I’m working on expanding my Bruckner 6th Symphony transcription for band to include all four movements. For starters, I had “1st Movement” hard-coded into my score and parts next to the name of the piece. Now, though, I’d like to have the movement number be flexible, based on a token.

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**Author:** ![Lillie\_Harris](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/lillie_harris/32/363348_2.png) [@Lillie\_Harris](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Lillie_Harris)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356/8 "2024-01-16T17:05:53Z")

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Perhaps then:

1. Make sure the flow title is how you want it to appear in the music, like “1st Movement” – the bit used by flow title tokens is what’s set in [Project Info](https://steinberg.help/dorico_pro/v5/en/dorico/topics/project_file_handling/project_file_handling_project_info_dialog_r.html), which might be different than the Flows panel in Setup mode

2. [Edit the flow heading template](https://steinberg.help/dorico_pro/v5/en/dorico/topics/engrave_mode/engrave_mode_flow_headings_editor_r.html) to remove the flow number token, leaving just the flow title token.

3. [Show flow headings](https://steinberg.help/dorico_pro/v5/en/dorico/topics/page_formatting/page_formatting_flow_headings_hiding_showing_t.html) in the required layouts (if you have local page overrides, those pages can’t be automatically updated to show flow headings when you change this option; you’ll need to [remove page overrides](https://steinberg.help/dorico_pro/v5/en/dorico/topics/engrave_mode/engrave_mode_page_template_overrides_removing_t.html) to update those pages)

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**Author:** ![leejackson](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/leejackson/32/220468_2.png) [@leejackson](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/leejackson)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356/9 "2024-01-25T10:29:46Z")

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Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this, but I’ve been ill. I will give your solution a try. Thank you very much for your help!

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**Author:** ![eheilner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb9ed0/32.png) [@eheilner](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/eheilner)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/token-for-names-of-flow/892356/10 "2024-07-09T18:17:24Z")

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Hi Lillie,

This is a bit confusing at first.

Dorico allows for both a flowName and a flowTitle.  
But there is no token for flowName - only {@flowTitle@}.  
However on Export Audio, when you specify separate files for flows, Dorico uses the flowName in the filename, not the flowTitle.  
Likewise Print /Graphics also gives the option of incorporating the flowName (but **NOT** flowTitle) .

The way I use this is to give the flowName some short value so the export / Graphics file names are more manageable. The flowTitle which appears on the score can be more descriptive.

Just my 2 cents - suggest we add a token for {@flowName@} would clear up some of the confusion
