Too much RAM, any ideas? :-)

i think i have found a way to blow your mem to max.
buy the Vienna bosendorfer and load that one with close and far mic settings in your mem.
That is 50 gigs on its own :stuck_out_tongue:
Then add a nice east west ludwig kit and use all three mic positions, also in mem.
and you need some voices, so there you can use symphonic choirs from east west, also with different mic positions

but i agree that it is not good for a memory module to be there in a system an never ever get any call.
that is just not done…

kind regards,
R.

This is really not much more off-topic than other posts I’ve seen around here… :slight_smile:

Geez, when I built my custom DAW rig a few years ago, I put 16 Gigs of RAM in it, and sometimes wonder if I should have thrown 32 G in instead.

If I had 32, I’d be smilin’ for sure. Like having the secure feeling of extra gas in the tank for that long, impromptu, spur of the moment trip.

So far no troubles with 16 G though.

Just a quick update: I just got Symphonic Choirs and Voices Of Passion from EWQL. Even with disk streaming on and not many patches loaded, my template without any recorded tracks is now using way north of 20 GB…
Might be time to switch the page file back on… :mrgreen:

Thanks for all your input!
Benji

That conjures up images. :smiling_imp:
Voices Of Passion! :open_mouth:
Does that have like samples from Je t’aime… or When Harry Met Sally? :laughing:

While I agree that the naming scheme along with the “naked girl” UI theme (yes, really!) is a little strange (even though you don’t see it anymore after a while), the package is REALLY nice and provides near instant Enya, “Gladiator” and “Middle-East refugee camp” material. Sorry for the cynicism, but that’s unfortunately how stuff like this gets used these days… :frowning:
And yes, there’s stuff in there that will get you dangerously close to “je t’aime” territory! :unamused:
Anyway, I’m glad I overprovisioned this machine when I built it!

Cheers,
Benji

Voices of passion is indeed one of the things i bought were i am actually unsure of if i am ever going to use it. It is a sample bank build around vocal loops of five women (mostly eastern) with a variable sample starting point assigned to the modulation wheel for most patches. The loops on itself are nice, and there are loads of them, but it is for a very specific purpouse. That being said, i like most of the EWQL things a lot.

So it is possible that one of the women says “je t’aime”, but i do not understand the langage, and if it is present it sounds more like “ayaiayeoeyaoeaie”. :slight_smile:

For those who may not have understood…
‘je t’aime’ is a famous song from Serge Gainsbourg recorded originally as a duet with Brigitte Bardot and later with Jane Birkin, the latter being the better known version Jane Birkin et Serge Gainsbourg - Je T'aime,...Moi Non Plus - YouTube
When Harry Met Sally is a film famous for it’s “I want what she’s having” scene Katz's Delicatessen - in "When Harry Met Sally" - YouTube
:wink:

No prob. It’s just a quick reaction on a small post. That song of serge Gainsbourg was very famous here too in the past.
But i have no idea where you guys hear any romance in that library, but hey, fwiw.
I hear or see camels, pyramids, castles, medieval markets and things like that in the library. Most of the times the more bloody type of movies. So maybe it has a wider target public after all if we can differ so much on where it can be used for. :slight_smile:

Jeeeeeeeez! Let’s buy way_____ to much ram to use, be unhappy it’s unused, then keep finding ways to load the holy crap out of the machine, for the sole purpose of making sure every bit of resources are to the gills…when we’ve reached the limits, it’s time for another REBUILD! YES!!!

DOH!!!

Being the OP, I didn’t want to appear like a dork…
I just find now that I’m dabbling in more cinematic sounding stuff, I’m glad the machine is as it is. That’s all…

Peace out!
Benji

I was just yankin’ yer chain Island :wink:

:sunglasses: Fair enough…
Good fun!

B.

+1
Using SSDs gets pretty close to the speeds obtained by reading off the drive cache, so virtual drives or RAID0 offer insignificant advantages, as well requiring extra management overhead, especially if problems occur.

SSDs basically provide the same performance improvement.

I’ve got something coming up, I’ll let you know when it’s installed and working… :sunglasses:

Well, I did it today: Since I’d acquired a large library from EWQL (Stormdrum 3 at 80GB), my VSTi SSD drive was filling up fast, so I decided to add a second library drive to the machine. I bought a Samsung 850 EVO SSD, cloned the OS and everything with it from my “old” Intel 335 SSD onto it, formatted that and copied my Superior Drummer libraries over.
Then I enabled RAPID mode for the new boot drive, and the system has been amazing ever since!
The spinning dots under the blue Windows logo at startup are gone in HALF the time, and Cubase is ready to load a project in about 3 seconds. Samples streaming in from two different SSDs is pretty cool as well!
Reason I’m posting this in my RAM thread? Well, RAPID mode uses a max of 4GB RAM to act as a very well behaved and fully backed up RAM disk, so I guess I’ve come full circle…
But this computer really is a lot of fun now!

Finally done tinkering and time for some music!
Cheers,
Benji

RAPID can make the maximum disk latency go from under 1ms up to 30+ms, as shown in the first table in this Anandtech article.

While that may not make much difference to average computer tasks, for DAWs, which totally depend upon the worst latency, that is a deal killer to switch on. That may be more than the maximum buffer size to which most audio interfaces can be set.

Sorry if this seems like I’m being a kill-joy :frowning: , but not all disk performance ‘improvements’, like RAPID, max queue depth and NCQ are necessarily good for DAWs. Just because SSDs can be pushed to some incredible performance limits, doesn’t mean that they should be relied on for DAWs, and most likely will bite you in the behind at the wrong time.

Pat,
RAPID is just enabled for a single drive, i.e. my boot/programs drive. All audio comes/goes from a dedicated RE4 HDD and all samples come from 2 discrete SSDs.
Since the RAPID cache is flushed regularly, written to disk and survives reboots, and I use very few different programs on this machine, I expect the cache contents to actually change very little.
As per Samsung instructions, I checked the non-paged pool in the task manager, and RAPID kicks in exactly 45 seconds after boot, as not to slow down the boot process. It goes from a few dozen MB to 1.4 GB, and I started every single program I have on this machine, and it wasn’t even getting close to anywhere the max of 4 GB that it can get. Adobe Premiere CS5.5 started instantly, for example.
From what I read, RAPID is great for classic mixed workloads and OS operations, and since all the heavy audio lifting in my machine is done by other storage, I don’t really feel that the existing caveats are applicable for my scenario.
But I’ll keep an eye on it for sure! :slight_smile:
Cheers,
Benji

Which is why I brought it up, so that it IS used where it IS beneficial, and NOT used where it may be an impediment. You are using the technology wisely.

Just be careful not to leave any sample libraries on the OS drive, such as the default installation for HALion, Groove Agent and VST Sound = C:\Program Data\Steinberg\Content = 10.7GB. Using any of those libraries will put you in the same latency risk.