Training for DeClick algorithm - a volunteer

SpectraLayers
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Hi @Robin_Lobel ,

I edit a lot of dialogue and tend to remove unwanted clicks by hand since I’ve never found a Declicker that could be used indiscriminately without damaging consonants.

So I spend a good chunk of time with either transient selection + heal or marquee selection + heal, thousands of times a day.

So I was thinking, since the DeClicker module is severely lacking ( as if it simply doesn’t know what an unwanted click in dialogue looks like, as I have stated multiple times in this forum), perhaps I (and others) could help to train the module in recognizing said unwanted clicks. As I’ve also said before, clearly transient selection + heal would make an EXCELLENT declicker if the program knows how to recognize one.

So if you want help and think that my logic makes sense, I am volunteering myself to use an SL build that somehow tracks what I do when using transient selection so it can watch me do it and go “Ooooohhh so THIS is what they’re talking about when they say Declick. Sure, I can do that!”

And I take this opportunity to remind you that we don’t really need it to be ultra-smart in recognizing consonants, if that takes a lot of development time. If we could just select broad sections of audio excluding what we want to preserve (consonants and contextual clicks), and press a module would be a HUGE advantage to selecting clicks individually as we need to do presently.

Let me know! Thanks a lot!

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Do you mean mouth clicks from dry voiced voice overs?

I’ve used RX-Mouth De Click and seems to be ok. You have to play with the settings a bit.

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Hey Phil thanks for the suggestion!

I’m well aware of RX Mouth De-click, and have used it for many years.
I think it is one of the best out there, specially on fiction work, but I still prefer to have more granularity when choosing what to keep, specially cause I work a lot with documentaries and there are a lot of desireable clicks in location audio. And it is faster to just do everything in spectral editing than processing a declicker on hundreds of audio segments through DOP.

Besides, Spectralayers needs to have a decent Declicker anyways, so my point stands.

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Ah, right

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Believe it or not, the unmixing levels feature works best for this (especially for vertical clicks). Such a shame that it cannot be previewed in-real-time.

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Never tried this approach, will do so, thanks!

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for me it is any unwanted sounds…can be mouth noises

I still use Acon DeClicker bounce for this before running standalone in SLP…

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I had recent case where a speaker was wearing a headset mic, and her earring kept tapping the mic boom. Pretty huge click each time.

Unfortunately SL De Click didn’t seem to ‘see’ it at all which was disappointing. Had to do it all by hand… which was very successful BTW.

Perhaps SL is looking for vinyl record type click/crackle? I’d certainly like it to be able to cope with other kinds of signal anomaly though.

Should be possible? In my case the clips/taps were incredibly obvious …

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100% agreed!

Hence this post.