True "Toggle" Key Commands (Automation & Zoom)

[mehtien]

Please add “True Toggle” Key Commands for automation and zoom:

1. Automation Lanes
   We need a single command to Open AND Close automation lanes on the selected track(s). Why does this require two separate commands in the first place?
2. Zoom to Selection Toggle
   We need a command that Zooms to Selection on the first press, and restores the previous view on the second press (without using the linear “Undo Zoom” history).

Thanks!!

[twelvetwelve]

Yep - although it’s been requested for decades at this point so who knows when/if it will ever get implemented.

[mehtien]

True! But if we keep asking, maybe one day they can‘t ignore it :).

[dreikelvin]

+1

Let’s Gooo

[Mooghead]

Yeees. Lane toggle would be huge. Zoom to selection is a long time wish.

[dreikelvin]

Generally, I think Cubendo could benefit from optimized Keyboard-only accessibility beyond assignable shortcuts. For example, switching from instrument/channel lane to the next is kinda broken. As soon as you have added a few midi or audio parts to your timeline, behavior feels wonky and pressing up/down skips the instrument lanes for no valid reason. It is almost by random.

Here is a demonstration of the problem:

I also critized and made suggestions to behavior in the marker window in this post:

Improvements Keyboard controls, Batch and AI tools in Inspector and Marker Window

I’d love to see some improvements in how you can edit these data fields with just your keyboard to avoid clicking too much with my mouse. This would help making Cubase/Nuendo workflow more economic and faster/efficient. For example, I am using the marker window most of the time to edit my cycle marker of takes and sounds for later export. It helps a lot using the ENTER key to write text into the description column. There are a few difficulties however: When you are in one field and press DOW…

[Jeremy_Gillam]

I was just looking for an automation show/hide toggle the other day. There’s a fold/unfold command which sort of works on one track at a time. But yes, big plus one from me for these requests — and new key commands in general!

[Jeremy_Gillam]

There is a preference — something like use up down arrows for selecting tracks only. Are you aware of that and have you tried changing its state?

[Greg_Purkey]

@mehtien

Automation Lanes
We need a single command to Open AND Close automation lanes on the selected track(s). Why does this require two separate commands in the first place?

Wouldn’t that ruin users macros who have separate commands to open/close in a PLE?

[mlib]

@mehtien

Zoom to Selection Toggle
We need a command that Zooms to Selection on the first press, and restores the previous view on the second press (without using the linear “Undo Zoom” history).

You can accomplish this with macros utilizing Zoom Mem/Zap. It would require two Key Commands however.
One workaround if you want one key toggle functionality is to either use MIDI Remote or a 3rd party scripting tool such as AHK.
(I use the latter to realize this exact behavior.)

[Greg_Purkey]

I didn’t even think of Zoom Zap in a macro.

Long ago when I first started out with Cubase and using Key Commands I would think like the OP.

But after creating lots of macros over the years, some with zoom, many of them would not be possible by using a toggle command.

I think separate on and off commands are important.

[m.c]

@Greg_Purkey

I think separate on and off commands are important

100% agreed. In fact, “toggles” can be programmed using utilities as @mlib already pointed out, while the opposite (having absolute states using toggle commands) is not generally feasible, one has to use strict keyboard/midi inputs for this, without using the mouse.

Nevertheless, adding toggles in the commands section, is certainly doable and probably would be useful when we don’t want external utilities handles.