Trying to "force" erase background when it doesn't work

In this scenario:

The editor has asked me to hide the barline behind the repeat symbol. Regardless of whether that is correct or not musically (which is irrelevant to the question), I have tried the following:

  1. create a white rectangle SVG in a vector-drawing program
  2. Library > Music Symbols > look for the “Repeat two last bars” symbol
  3. In the Graphics tab, import the white rectangle
  4. Scale it as needed and move it into place. Notice how the graphic is placed above the symbol.

Now, trying to use the Z-placement buttons to move the graphics to the back doesn’t seem to work as it stays in front.

Is this a bug or something that I did not do correctly? Or, simply, something that is just not supported at the moment. These are extreme pieces so I do not expect Dorico to be able to just do everything. If this is not possible, I will mark this up to be cleaned in Illustrator at a later stage.

In case you had a similar issue and found a solution, would you please share it with us here?

Thanks!

Would it not be simplest just to hide the barline?
Choose a tick barline and set the in/out offsets to -1/2.
(If you want to keep other barlines at this point, you can make the change independent of other barlines with alt-enter)

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So a local barline, you mean, right?

only if you need it to be local.
(I’m finding the the terms local and independent are becoming interchangeable)

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Yes, that was the main issue because the other instruments have standard barlines.

Unfortunately, something is not working here:

I’m repeating the process twice: once after pressing the button and one after holding down the Option key. Any idea why?

Can you post the file?
(but it looks like you have selected all the barlines…)

I sadly cannot but, in any case, it is not possible to select a single barline in Write mode.

Doing so in Engrave mode doesn’t let me change its type and, when I switch to Write mode, the entire barline gets selected. I guess the point of the Option/Alt key is that it should allow me to work around that.

If you tell me that it works for you in a new file in Dorico 6.1.10 I will send the project to the team for checking.

You might need a local time signature first.

Jesper

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Ah! This makes a lot of sense!

In effect, no time signature = no barlines or … no local time signature = no local barline!

Thanks a lot!

In any case, I wonder if there is still a potential bug in the Z-level of the items in the music symbols editor.

Ciao @MicheleGalvagno, I was able to have a somehow good result using a SVG white rectangle (created in Inkscape). The trick is to set it as background immediately after adding it.

Here a visual guide:

Dorico file example:
white background for 2 bars repeat music symbol.dorico (1.2 MB)

And here the used SVG graphic:
white rectangle.svg.zip (1.2 KB)

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Very nice!

So the fact that one is moving it causes the Z order property not to be applicable anymore for that graphic! Very interesting.

Thank you so much!