I’ve just encountered the following behavior when attempting to move the notes of a tuplet:
In the following example I want to move the tuplet to the left by one tuplet 16th to begin on the rest. If I select the notes and the tuplet number I cannot move the group with the mouse or with the Option-left arrow. It doesn’t budge. I have the grid set to 32nd notes.
Further experimentation seems to show that the tuplet can be moved as a unit to the right and even back again to the left, but not to begin at the beginning of the measure.
Thank you Janus. I tried that but it didn’t work for me. Probably because that is not an area of Dorico that I am familiar with.
@Christian_R I tried that, but it pulled notes beyond the tuplet into it and also moved music after it in a way that makes me nervous when doing certain operations in Dorico since it can create unsuspected havoc later in the score. (And I just discovered that it had done exactly that in this case, but I was able to recover quickly by undoing.)
Further experimentation seemed to show that even moving tuplet units to the right doesn’t work consistently. In once case I was able to move a 16:12 16th note tuplet in 3/4 to the right to fill in a trailing 16th rest (right hand part in the following example) as one would expect. Yet I was unable to do a parallel passage in the left hand part without winding up with dotted values, no matter how many times I tried.
Rot is just a shorthand for rotate. The tool takes a sequence of notes and rotates it a number of times (in this case you want the last 4 notes to become the first 4, so you need rot 4)
I have a theory. Perhaps this is a “rounding” problem which only becomes problematic when larger numbers of notes are involved. I am finding that I can move smaller groups of notes within the tuplets more successfully.
Tone row transformations are fundamental to the 2nd Viennese School methods. Simple transpositions and inversions are fundamental to the wider classical canon.
In Dorico the note tools popover is a very powerful way to perform these transformations very simply. To see some of the possibilities just review the popover summary document.
